Go Back   Land Rover Forums - Land Rover Enthusiast Forum > Vehicle Line Up > Discovery I
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Welcome to the Land Rover Forums - Land Rover Enthusiast Forum.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-25-2012, 12:36 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: mt hood ,Oregon
Posts: 32
Default cold start issue

ok so i have had my 98 disco for a few months now and have had no problems but yesterday i was leaving work and my ruck started then died.after srating its and i dieing for a hour it finaly stayed running no lights in he dash are present so im confused it has 4.0 and its a auto,thanks for any help im in desperate need
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-25-2012, 01:59 AM
leadfoot's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 267
Default

No much information to go by. There could be several causes for your problem.The first thing I would check is fuel pressure right after it dies and with the key still in the on position. How mechanically inclined are you?
__________________
Land Rover Discovery 1997 152K
Mitsubishi Montero 1998 140K
Toyota FJ Cruiser 2007 50K
BMW Z3
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-25-2012, 04:43 AM
Savannah Buzz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Savannah Georgia
Posts: 7,388
Default

The no lights in the dash point to something that does not throw a code when failing at start.

Low fuel pressure (clogged filter, fuel pump problems, fuel pressure regulator bad or vac hose off/leaking) could be one. The fuel pump will only run for say 30 seconds if the engine does not start. There is a test valve on the passenger side fuel injection rail (looks like a tire valve). With pump running, pressure should be in the 32-34 PSI range. Side of the road test is depress the center pin in the valve with a something and have rag around it to catch fuel. You can also use a tire gauge to check pressure. If no fuel can be fuse, fuel pump relay, inertia switch on firewall (push top to reset), fuel pressure regulator, vac hose to regulator, fuel filter, fuel pump.

The crank position sensor is another, and frequently it also causes the truck to die when warmed up. If it is the culprit, there won't be any spark, and that can be confirmed by removing a spark plug wire, attaching a spare 99 cent spark plug, and lay it on the exhaust manifold. Crank truck, and some one check for sparks. Do not hold plug while doing this.
__________________
RAVE tech manuals available at http://www.landroverresource.com/ (download) or http://macassemble.com/lrm/ (view on line)

D1 GEMS ECU manuals http://landroverforums.com/forum/dis...-manual-47986/

D2 Bosch ECU manuals http://landroverforums.com/forum/dis...manuals-48009/


97 Disco 1 178K "Frankenstien" brought back to life with parts from the dead ones

Shade Tree Mechanic Second Class -
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-25-2012, 09:03 AM
Disco Mike's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 21,602
Send a message via Skype™ to Disco Mike
Default

Just to be clear, Rovers have no cold start issues.
You have a tune related issue most likely. When was it last tuned along with 8 mm silicone wires and a fuel filter? Do you get a check engine light, if so what are the fault codes?
__________________
Mike
Retired service manager. Member of the Solihull Society, NCLR club, SCLR and Santa Barbara 4 Wheelers.

99 D2, 3" lift, CDL with a Detroit and T.T. lockers, H.D. axles, 4:11 gears, Custom front and rear bumpers, sliders, Warn winch, and 5 HID's.

To Download the RAVE Manual, follow this link http://www.landroverresource.com/

Rover Radio issues or IPOD Adapters http://home.valornet.com/splacket/index.htm



Need Parts?
paulgrant@mac.com, or 203-770-1699
willtillery@roverguy.com, or 434-251-9331
Paul PTSchram 260-804-0458
PM Marty(Drillbit)[url]http://www.landroversonly.com/forums...o=newpm&u=5940
British Parts of Utah, http://www.bputah.com/
Lucky8, http://lucky8llc.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-25-2012, 06:31 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Wherever I want *in ny for dweb*
Posts: 523
tencreds10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savannah Buzz View Post
There is a test valve on the passenger side fuel injection rail (looks like a tire valve). With pump running, pressure should be in the 32-34 PSI range.
I checked my fuel pressure today and I have 38-45 PSI! Should I be dancing in the streets? LOL
__________________
Discovery I 1995 with 178,XXX
New oil pump, timing chain, fan clutch and radiator... NO LEAKS! Knock on wood...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Savannah Buzz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Savannah Georgia
Posts: 7,388
Default

Keep in mind that mechanical guages are subject to errors in accuracy, and it is not uncommon to have five gauges and get 5 different readings. Digital ones are also, but errors are smaller usually. But a good reading like yours indicates a healthy fuel pump and a hard working fuel pressure regulator. The ECU sends a voltage pulse to each injector at exactly the right time to open and squirt fuel, and based on varying load conditions, it makes the pulses longer (wider) so more fuel is passed with each squirt. While this is complex, it allows the computer to control things over wide ranges, faster than a well trained right foot ever could.

Now that you checked the fuel, what about the oil pressure??
__________________
RAVE tech manuals available at http://www.landroverresource.com/ (download) or http://macassemble.com/lrm/ (view on line)

D1 GEMS ECU manuals http://landroverforums.com/forum/dis...-manual-47986/

D2 Bosch ECU manuals http://landroverforums.com/forum/dis...manuals-48009/


97 Disco 1 178K "Frankenstien" brought back to life with parts from the dead ones

Shade Tree Mechanic Second Class -
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-26-2012, 10:33 AM
Danny Lee 97 Disco's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh PA suburbs.
Posts: 5,067
Default

Buzz: Do not hold plug while doing this.

Why did you tell then that? A little jolt never killed nobody.
__________________
HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU FROM.
Danny Lee 97 Disco
Driving MEANANDEROVER

Might be a REDNECK in a Rover
Just Don't Flip Your Rover Over
See my Rover Pics: http://community.webshots.com/user/DannyLee97Disco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZz2qlKeAJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyxc...eature=related
THESE ARE FOR THOSE WHO I OFFENDED
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-26-2012, 10:40 AM
Savannah Buzz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Savannah Georgia
Posts: 7,388
Default

If you have SWMBO hold it, she'll not visit the garage very often after that. Of course, you may be sleeping in garage....

Having an older friend do it may not be a good idea - Depends...

Having the car sales man hold it is always a plus...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-26-2012, 11:00 AM
EricTyrrell's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 830
Default

Your plug cables are too cold. Place the cable end in your pants to warm it and have SWMBO start the Rover. Something is bound to start right up!
__________________
97 Discovery SE7 163K
Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 11:00 AM
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
1998, 2006, bad, cold, discovery, fuel, hard, land, pressure, problem, psi, range, regulator, rover, start


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Our Sponsors
 
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:29 PM.

Copyright © Internet Brands, Inc. All rights reserved.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.
LAND ROVER and its logo are the registered trademarks of Land Rover. Land Rover is not affiliated with LandRoverForums.com.

Emails Backup