about to put on my tactical rovers bumper with a winch coming soon and i was wondering how badly this will make my front end sag? I have MD Tf +2 springs. Should i upgrade to HD springs or just throw a spacer under them??

 

I have the OME HD springs and mine sagged down 1/2 inch after a TR bumper and winch. I would imagine that the MD will sag probably about a full inch. I would honestly just wait and see how much sag you have and then go from there.

 

I recently added my TR bumper and steering guard skid, and working on winch install. I have OME MD springs, and am waiting to see how much it sags before determining my next steps. I had the LR A-bar, and would say so far about 1/2 inch or so. I did not get the full brush on my TR bumper however.

 

thanks for the help guys

 

I have the TF 2" MD progressive lift with a steel bumper and 12K winch. The first pic shows abundant clearance with the 255/55R18 (29" tires). The second pic shows the sufficient clearance with the 255/70R18 (32" tires), i.e., no tire rub on the front wheel wells when turning. The springs are a year old.

The MD version is more than adequate for my SE7. Works well for me with a plush on-highway road manners coupled with sufficient clearance for my diffs for my type of off-roading.

 

correct me if im wrong but that is a baja rack right? if so how do you like it. I am really looking into a roof rack because im basically moving (going off to college) and Id prefferably only have to make one trip. is the flooring good? also weld and powder coat quality good?

 

do you have a ballpark weight of the bumper and winch? I was looking in to a 12k winch too but was seriously worried about weight. I don't want to get a new bumper for better clearance only to have it sag down

 

In regard to the rack on my D2, it is a "SD" Safety Device rack, and I have the SD model that allows for the sunroofs to open, which is a a little taller than the non-sunroof rack.

 

man those are hard to come by nowadays. no used racks on the market.. at least reasonably priced ones

 

Re: Baja rack....

Check out my post from a couple of days ago: https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...ne-rack-72977/

Re: a ballpark weight of the bumper and winch..

My bumper is a custom bumper (see pic). It have a similar design to the Tactical Rovers bumper with the brush guard. My bumper has a larger bumper frontal area. Unfortunately, I do not have the weight of the bumper. The weight of the Badlands winch is 86 lbs.

Check out the Terra Firma site:
Terrafirma D2 Medium load front springs | Suspension - Coil Springs Accessories for Land Rover Vehicles

"D2 Medium load front springs:

TF042 Medium load front coil springs are designed to provide 2 inches of lift on a Discovery 2 with a medium load up to around 50kg (110 lbs) additional equipment fitted, such as a discrete winch mount and winch.The TF042 only fits the front of Discovery 2.

More than 2 inches of lift will be achieved when less than 50kg of additional equipment is fitted. No additional equipment may lead to too much lift causing drive shaft vibration and steering geometry problems.

D2 Heavy load front coil springs

TF052 Heavy load front coil springs are designed to provide 2 inches of lift on a heavily loaded Discovery 2 for commercial and expedition use. The TF052 only fits the front of Discovery 2 and should only be used when carrying a constant load or additional equipment weighing up to 100kg (220lbs)

More than 2 inches of lift will be achieved when less than 100kg of additional equipment which may lead to too much lift causing drive shaft vibration and steering geometry problems."

I did not want to go too harsh of a ride as the Disco is 85% highway use. Hence, I went with the medium duty springs.

You may also want to consider the rear spring to complement the front spring. The TF medium duty rear spring rating is 200 kg (440 lbs) versus the TF heavy duty rating of 300 kg(660 lbs). Note TF's precaution for the heavy duty spring: "Do not fit this spring if you are not carrying the load as the lift may be too great and could cause over extension of the rear shocks." In other words, you could end up with a substantial negative rake angle (meaning the rear end is higher than the front end).

The Disco is usually not fully loaded when driving on-highway. Therefore, I chose both the medium-duty front and rear springs to give me a very slight negative rake on the vehicle. The rake evens out when the truck is loaded with the Baja rack, RTT and off-road trailer.