Terrafirma bumper installation has me stumped
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Do they even sell grade 8 bolts? You don't want to use anything less. Or class 10.9 if metric.
Larger snap ring pliers. If you don't want to buy new, check your local pawn shop, the filthier the better as they'll more likely have them.
Larger snap ring pliers. If you don't want to buy new, check your local pawn shop, the filthier the better as they'll more likely have them.
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Going through frame on d1 I ran a 1/2" drill bit through to ream it for 1/2" bolts, if you use the bolt holes to adjust the bumper, first time you use the bumper it will get pulled out of alignment IMO so best to use the big bolts
On the snap rings I have had luck in the past getting one side on then noun around forcing the ring on and using a pick or awl to stretch the end but it can be s real pita so best to try for pliers
On the snap rings I have had luck in the past getting one side on then noun around forcing the ring on and using a pick or awl to stretch the end but it can be s real pita so best to try for pliers
Last edited by TOM R; 06-28-2015 at 08:44 AM.
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i believe all that little button head hardware is for the washer bottle guard.
i used the same 4 bolts that held the stock bumper frame on, took a 4 in grinder to smooth the frame horns and it walked right on.
you might want to mount the bumper before the winch, i believe the grill is all you should have to cut. but i do not have a winch on so im not sure.
on the snaprings i started over the post and them used a socket to drive them in place
i used the same 4 bolts that held the stock bumper frame on, took a 4 in grinder to smooth the frame horns and it walked right on.
you might want to mount the bumper before the winch, i believe the grill is all you should have to cut. but i do not have a winch on so im not sure.
on the snaprings i started over the post and them used a socket to drive them in place
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I spoke with Erik at Lucky 8 this morning and he confirmed that yes, the crossmember will need to be cut for a winch to be installed. Erik said he had done that with his DII to a couple of years ago and had no adverse effects. Another forum member here in town told me over the weekend that he did the same a year ago when he installed his Terrafirma.
It's disappointing that the Terrafirma and vendor web sites don't disclose the amount of surgery necessary to mount a winch with this bumper. I'm also surprised that these modifications haven't been discussed previously on this and other forums given the amount of ink spent discussing bumpers. The Lucky 8 web page for this bumper is silent about installation, as is Terrafirma's. Not a word.
The Rovers North and AB pages both say "This is a direct replacement for the 2003-2004 stock bumper. For earlier models, removing the bottom inch of plastic center grill is required on vehicles manufactured 1999-2002. Uses popular Warn 9 mount pattern to fit most electric winches. Requires removing a section of center grill to accommodate winch. Includes mounting hardware and washer bottle guard and mounting hardware."
Those descriptions are incomplete to a degree that makes them misleading. Given that the first reference to to cutting the grill specified plastic the implication is that the second reference about removing a section of the center grill to accommodate a winch also meant the plastic. I had never previously had the grill off the truck and wasn't focused on there even being a steel reinforcement.
So it was off to Harbor Freight this afternoon for the $14.99 angle grinder and a pack of cutoff wheels. Wish me luck.
BTW, I got the snap rings installed and the swivel eyes mounted. Just needed a bigger set of snap ring pliers.
It's disappointing that the Terrafirma and vendor web sites don't disclose the amount of surgery necessary to mount a winch with this bumper. I'm also surprised that these modifications haven't been discussed previously on this and other forums given the amount of ink spent discussing bumpers. The Lucky 8 web page for this bumper is silent about installation, as is Terrafirma's. Not a word.
The Rovers North and AB pages both say "This is a direct replacement for the 2003-2004 stock bumper. For earlier models, removing the bottom inch of plastic center grill is required on vehicles manufactured 1999-2002. Uses popular Warn 9 mount pattern to fit most electric winches. Requires removing a section of center grill to accommodate winch. Includes mounting hardware and washer bottle guard and mounting hardware."
Those descriptions are incomplete to a degree that makes them misleading. Given that the first reference to to cutting the grill specified plastic the implication is that the second reference about removing a section of the center grill to accommodate a winch also meant the plastic. I had never previously had the grill off the truck and wasn't focused on there even being a steel reinforcement.
So it was off to Harbor Freight this afternoon for the $14.99 angle grinder and a pack of cutoff wheels. Wish me luck.
BTW, I got the snap rings installed and the swivel eyes mounted. Just needed a bigger set of snap ring pliers.
Last edited by mln01; 07-09-2015 at 01:17 PM.
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Those descriptions are incomplete to a degree that makes them misleading. Given that the first reference to to cutting the grill specified plastic the implication is that the second reference about removing a section of the center grill to accommodate a winch also meant the plastic. I had never previously had the grill off the truck and wasn't focused on there even being a steel reinforcement.
In fact, if I were making a bumper for someone I wouldn't call it a direct replacement if anything needed to be cut, even the plastic grill.
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Terrafirma sucks for instructions. I have their sliders, I contacted them for instructions and they stated that they don't have any. There were more holes in the sliders than included hardware. There was a mix of nylock and standard nuts. I had to buy more nuts and bolts.
As for the verbiage about modification, we are currently revamping our website and the specific details will be included. Thank you for your suggestions.