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jeff spahn May 1, 2012 09:09 AM

ABS disabling question and issue
 
I went about disabling the ABS due to the issues surrounding the Discovery I ABS and safety concerns. I removed the dash light per a write up that I found in search. Took about 10 minutes to remove the bulb and re-install the gauge cluster.

I then proceeded to remove the 30 amp blade fuse under the hood for the ABS valve. All went very well.

After this I removed the 40 am fusible link. When I removed this, the Discovery wouldn't idle. I put the link back in, it idles fine.

Does anyone have a work around on this or do I just need to remove the 30 amp valve fuse and leave the 40 amp fusible link in there?

Disco Mike May 1, 2012 10:41 AM

Why are you wanting to disable it, there are no saftey issues and when needed, it can sure help you stop better, especially in the wet weather?

jeff spahn May 1, 2012 10:55 AM

Because it doesn't work more than 5% of the time. At times it will randomly come on and cause me to about bend the pedal arm pushing the brakes to the floor to get it to stop and not kill the person in front of me. From what I have read, this is a not uncommon occurrence. This is when the Anti Lock light isn't on solid on the dash.
When it is on, I am getting a code 4-14 (left front sensor resistance too high or wiring bad). I inspected the wiring and it is unbroken where visible. Cost of the sensor is about $250 which is $250 more than I paid for the vehicle. I only use this for taking mountain bikes to and from riding points in dry weather or picking up gardening materials at garden center so I really don't care if it works or not.

If there is a better way to fix it, please fill me in.

ValveCoverGasket May 1, 2012 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Disco Mike (Post 317077)
Why are you wanting to disable it, there are no saftey issues and when needed, it can sure help you stop better, especially in the wet weather?

because the internet has informed him that ABS is baaadd!
haha


maybe try a used sensor from one of the many guys on here that parts trucks... sure to cost less than $250.

jeff spahn May 1, 2012 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket (Post 317084)
because the internet has informed him that ABS is baaadd!
haha


maybe try a used sensor from one of the many guys on here that parts trucks... sure to cost less than $250.

I have been trying to find them used but no luck so far.

If by the internet you mean the Land Rover Forums.com, then yes, that is where i get my information. From all of the members here.

I am far from thinking ABS is bad. My other 4 vehicles have ABS and particularly I find it helpful on the track with my 928 and my MDX and Explorer in the snow.

The return on investment isn't there for the Discovery.

jeff spahn May 1, 2012 11:35 AM

Now to get back on topic. Can anyone tell me why the Discovery wouldn't idle with the 40 amp fusible link taken out for the ABS system?

antichrist May 1, 2012 12:50 PM

I don't see a 40a fusible link in the ETM for the '97 (other than for the 300Tdi) so not sure what you're referring to.


Originally Posted by Disco Mike (Post 317077)
there are no saftey issues

Really? You've obviously never had a D1 ABS fail.


Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket (Post 317084)
because the internet has informed him that ABS is baaadd!
haha

No, because D1 ABS is bad. When it works it's fine, the problem is that it can fail and leave you with no brakes, completely without warning.
Sure, it might happen in a place where you can eventually stop and get home or to the shop and fix it, but mine failed and sent me through a stop sign. Luckily there was no cross traffic.

Disco Mike May 1, 2012 01:19 PM

Call Paul Grant, his number is listed in my signature section, he should have a used sensor for you

1998DiscoverySE May 1, 2012 03:05 PM

Disco I ABS treated me the same. I kept gettign a 'false positive'. A pulsating pedal but no stopping power. I glided right through a couple of intersections right after buying her. I did my research and pulled the under the dash blade fuse #4 on Satelite bank #1.

I not had a single problem with the braking/ABS since doing so.

Caveat: I have read that pulling one fuse and not the other can do something to damage the ABS system/pump/somethingorother. Because one of them controls the ABS unit and one of the controls the pump, or something along those lines.

I cant speak to any of that because I never intend on 'fixing' the ABS system. Yes. It does lock up a bit in the rain.

Chris-bob May 1, 2012 04:32 PM

Abs....
 
I fail to see why anyone would want a system that shares the acronym of the American Breeders Service to stop their vehicle...yuck. Have you seen what those guys do with their arms and the backside of a cow.....:eek:


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