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MyRoversNameIsCarl 08-03-2014 02:51 PM

Coolant leak but passed combustion in coolant and pressure tests
 
I have had a leak in the coolant system for a little while but have been able to top it off every time I see the level dip. I just did some tests and found no combustion gas in the coolant, and no leaks found from the pressure test. There has been some white smoke coming out of the tailpipe with a bit of water dripping but it is not severe. It also doesn't smell like coolant - just like regular exhaust but more humid. Any ideas what could cause it?

If you need any other information please let me know! Thanks.

Jared9220 08-03-2014 03:21 PM

Well you have already done the 2 big test most of us would suggest to do. If you are still having trouble finding the leak then it might be time for a UV dye test to help locate it.

How much coolant are you loosing exactly?

The coolant has to be going somewhere and if you didn't find any leak externally with the pressure test then I'm leaning toward either a very small or hard to see external leak or it's an internal leak. Small external leaks can be hard to spot so you might want to do it again with UV dye.

How does the oil look?

Have you checked the throttle body heater under the throttle body?

MyRoversNameIsCarl 08-03-2014 04:36 PM

I can't really quantify the coolant loss. It is not substantial. I drive every day to work about 2 miles in low MPH. I lose only a small amount in this time and top it off with just a bit of coolant. I can measure it but it will take a couple of weeks to lose it first...

The oil is a little dirty but looks like oil - no milkiness or frothiness I have read about.

I have checked the throttle body and while there are no puddles, there is some dried red stuff around one of the hoses. Could this be a leak?

I was planning on replacing the hoses soon so I may replace the heater as well.

Jared9220 08-03-2014 04:46 PM

The dried red stuff is more than likely coolant. A picture would help. Do you still have the orange Dexcol coolant in?

Jared9220 08-03-2014 05:00 PM

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Does the red stuff look like this?

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MyRoversNameIsCarl 08-03-2014 06:33 PM

It's less pink and more rust/orange colored...

Jared9220 08-03-2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by MyRoversNameIsCarl (Post 475677)
It's less pink and more rust/orange colored...

It's leaking from either a split hose or the throttle body heater. I would just replace the heater and install new hose clamps if the stock ones are still on there.
Throttle Body Heater Plate Kit (Genuine Part # MGM000010) | Land Rover And Range Rover Fuel System Parts
http://www.roverparts.com/product/im...GM000010KG.jpg

dr. mordo 08-03-2014 08:17 PM

One thing to remember is some of these trucks like to run with the coolant at less than max level.

If I fill my reservoir up all the way, within a few days it will have dumped itself down to about an inch and a half below the filled line. If I leave it alone, it will hold that level indefinitely.

So I just quit topping it off, and I check it a couple of times a week. It has been stable for at least a year now.

drowssap 08-04-2014 06:59 AM

new TBH need

evoblade 08-04-2014 08:16 AM

Is the pressure test done while running or static? Also, how does the exhaust test work?

MyRoversNameIsCarl 08-04-2014 10:55 AM

I turned my car on and let it warm up then turned it off, waited a minute, then ran the exhaust test. Then ran the pressure test. It's a device that sucks up some of the air in the coolant system, which bubbles up through some blue liquid that is supposed to turn yellowish if combustion gases are present.

Do you think it could be too much oil? I think there is about half a quart too much in there right now... I am planning on replacing it anyway because it is dirty.

drowsshap what do you mean by new THB need?

drowssap 08-04-2014 11:19 AM

throttle body heater

MyRoversNameIsCarl 08-09-2014 06:01 PM

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I purchased a new throttle body heater and am gonna replace it next weekend. I think that should solve a lot of my problems.

I was looking closely at the engine today, however, and noticed some gunk building up around the headbolts. I attached some pictures. Do you guys think I need to tighten them, or could it be something more serious?

Thanks!

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drowssap 08-09-2014 08:25 PM

tighten your valve covers bolts and clean your engine see if it stops

james.martin1 08-10-2014 08:24 AM

I agree, just looks like a valve cover leak to me.

If your oil is too full I would change it and add the correct amount soon. After you drain and change the filter add 6 qts, start and run about 30 secs to fill the filter, then top off a little at a time until full (about 1/2 qt).

Noticeable coolant loss after driving 2 miles should show up if it is an external leak, I would get your engine cleaned up if replacing your throttle body heater doesn't do the trick so you can look for leaks.

Just curious, is your CEL on?

MarkSF 08-10-2014 09:22 PM

You can't beat being able to pressurize the cooling system more than normal. Those leaks tend to be easy to find, then. I tried one of these :


I found 3 leaks right away.


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