Dead on road...cranks and cranks, won't start...
 

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Hey everybody,

Looking for a little guidance here.

Took my 2003 DII out yesterday to go row on the river. Parked the truck and was idling for a couple minutes before I got out. I noticed two times in that span a slight stumble in the engine and a subsequent increase in RPMs (to about 1500) and then a drop back to idle.

I turned the truck off and went rowing for a few hours. When I got back, the truck just cranks and cranks, but never even attempts to start. No half stumbles, nothing.

Seems like it isn't getting fuel, but I wanted to get some opinions on where to start looking.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

there is a reset for the fuel pump on the fire wall, left side of the engine near the coils have you tried that?

I have not. Does it show the location in the RAVE manual?

Crank no start, could be Crank Shaft Position sensor. Also agree could be fuel pump related. There is a fuel pump rely in the underhood fuse block.

Open the hood, look where the 2 heater hoses go thru the fire wall, you'll see the switch with a rubber top, press it down and try starting it.
If that doesn't work and you are not low on gas, the your crank sensor has failed.

It is probably a bad Crankshaft Position sensor. If you let the car sit and cool down and it starts back up for a few minutes and then dies again then it is your Crankshaft Position sensor. Its about $100 part and 3 bolts to remove. It sounds like an easy job but it can be hard to plug and unplug the sensor if you don't have small arms and hands to reach the plug.

Thanks all. I will give the reset a shot when I get to the truck this afternoon. It's sitting at a gas station down the road...

X2 on harder than it sounds to replace the Crank Position Sensor which you can get at O'Rielly's for $59.99.

O'Reilly's Part# 19-0296 (UPC: 25623652542)

And it looks like the stores in your area have it in stock.

5160 E Belknap, Holtman City, TX (682) 647-0502

4011 East Belknap, Holtman City, TX (817) 759-1595

If it turns out that's it's not your Crankshaft Position Sensor (it probably is, but if it isn't,) I'd still have one on hand w/ the amount of miles you got there.

You can get one just about any auto parts store - 'doesn't have to be OEM.

-Anthony

How many miles on your truck???
The fuel pump may have failed.

My 1999 Saab 93 made it until about 190,000 and then the Bosch fuel pump died.

Not sure what the typical Rover Bosch fuel pump will go as far as miles..

My D2 - 100,000 miles - original fuel pump.
My D1 - 164,000 miles - we replaced the fuel pump at 80,000 or so to solve an unrelated problem.

You could put a Volt Ohm Meter at the fuel pump and measure if you get a 12 volt pulse when you first turn the key on.
That would be a clue that

1) Fuse is good.
2) relay is good.
3) ECU is commanding fuel pump to go on.

I am not discounting the crank sensor..
But, the fact that your RPM's rose before you went rowing..
Means - it was getting LESS fuel and the Idle Valve went cranking open to raise the RPM.

I would think if the Crank sensor was failing - it would start again when the engine was dead cold.
In your case, you can't start from dead cold.