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toad2 Feb 6, 2013 12:29 PM

Misfire codes, Tune up Help/advice needed
 
I have misfire codes for cyl 3,5 and 7. Plugs 5 and 7 wet with oil/blowback.
My indie mech is doing a compression test now.

I have the tick when warmed up at idle but disappears when rpm increases.

My oil pressure #'s are good, checked them a couple mnth's ago when diagnosing the tick.

I replaced the lifters so my mechanic is wondering about valve adjustment. I told him I don't think there is any adjustment.

He replaced plugs 5 and 7 but codes returned.

He is going to check fire.

The wires need to be replaced, I have not done it because I thought it was going to blow up. I will change the wires to 8mm asap.

Any sugestions? Thanks in advance.

He will not rip me, grew up together.
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jfall Feb 6, 2013 01:18 PM

Tilley,
Lifters are self adjusting.

Misfires can be
Bad wires
bad plugs
Bad coil
valves sticking

If you have oil in the cylinders, then you may have needed to change the oil more often?

Is there blow by in the cylinders?

If the rocker arms under the valve covers looked really dirty and crusty
then I am wondering if your valves are sticking now and again?

Disco Mike Feb 6, 2013 03:23 PM

Get a good set of 8 mm silicon wire, like STI or Magnecor and that will fix it.

toad2 Feb 6, 2013 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Disco Mike (Post 376280)
Get a good set of 8 mm silicon wire, like STI or Magnecor and that will fix it.

Wires will be here tomorrow and will put them on Sat. Hard to get 8mm Magnecors up here quickly. I bought a set of 7mm from napa for $60.

Thanks Mike, hope you are right.

toad2 Feb 6, 2013 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by jfall (Post 376251)
Tilley,
Lifters are self adjusting.

Misfires can be
Bad wires
bad plugs
Bad coil
valves sticking

If you have oil in the cylinders, then you may have needed to change the oil more often? No, changed it a month before I swapped out the lifters,and changed it then as well.

Is there blow by in the cylinders? Not sure, that is why he was asking about valve adjustment.

If the rocker arms under the valve covers looked really dirty and crusty
then I am wondering if your valves are sticking now and again? I was very surprised how clean everything was inside when I opened it up. With 130k on it I was expecting alot of gunk and crustiness but it was super clean.


Answers above

toad2 Feb 9, 2013 11:33 AM

Just finished installing new wires and will go for a test drive.

Lucky for me it's a blizzard here today! Yay

jfall Feb 9, 2013 11:37 AM

IF your mechanic does not know that land rover valves on the gas engines are not adjustable, then you need a new mechanic.

Obviously this mechanic does not work on land rovers very much

toad2 Feb 9, 2013 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by jfall (Post 377029)
IF your mechanic does not know that land rover valves on the gas engines are not adjustable, then you need a new mechanic.

Obviously this mechanic does not work on land rovers very much

No mechanics up here work on Land Rovers much because there aren't any.
He knew I changed the lifters and was asking if the rockers needed shimed, that's all.

Disco Mike Feb 9, 2013 12:06 PM

If you changed the lifters without changing the cam, you are do for more issues soon. With a Rover engine, the cam is too soft and unless you change both at the same time, the cam will eat up the new lifters.

toad2 Feb 9, 2013 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Disco Mike (Post 377040)
If you changed the lifters without changing the cam, you are do for more issues soon. With a Rover engine, the cam is too soft and unless you change both at the same time, the cam will eat up the new lifters.

Well, thats what I did. How long do I have?

Oh, the test drive went very well. Lot more power and idleing much smoother. Except for famous hammering under there.


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