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KingKoopa 12-06-2017 07:53 PM

Need to clear ABS codes?
 
Ok, in the past, I paid to have someone scan the SLABS and tell me that I had an ABS sensor fault. Changed the sensor, and the amigos turned off before I got out of the neighborhood.


Now the amigos are back. I've changed the 3 other sensors, and I did the option B fix last year. Is it possible that I just need to have the codes cleared before I'm all good or should it have cleared itself if it had been a sensor issue?

LR03NJ 12-07-2017 12:01 AM

I am having some amigos at the moment. Upon start, no amigos but after I hit a bump. I guess it resets itself.

huggi 12-07-2017 09:03 AM

I have the same question, got the amigos after a ball joint job, changed the and sensors..... Still there on startup

CollieRover 12-07-2017 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by huggi (Post 628422)
I have the same question, got the amigos after a ball joint job, changed the and sensors..... Still there on startup

They are hard faults so they need to be cleared, or they will continue to come on. Have you reset them?

OffroadFrance 12-07-2017 06:31 PM

Be careful, some aftermarket reluctor rings and bearings have less reluctor tags. Many and genuine are 60 tags whereas some aftermarket are only 55 to 59 tags which causes an imbalance if mixed with genuine.

You defo need to sort any 3 amigo codes then delete them and then test drive to check if they return. Often they don't but sometimes they do. Often it results as a bad plug connection requiring some electrical contact spray in the plug and socket. Sometimes it's a defective wheel bearing or defective abs sensor, particularly aftermarket ones. Aftermarket sensors are often a fraction too long and make contact with reluctor rings.

Best4x4 12-07-2017 08:39 PM

If you're having the 3 amigo's after performing Option B you either have a bad shuttle valve switch, bad ground, wiring issue, or a hub/wheel sensor problem.

The ABS SLABS unit will store hard faults like sensors and shuttle valves and the lights will not just go on/off. If the 3 amigos are there upon startup, and after a key cycle they go away you normally have a wiring issue/shuttle valve plug problem.

I use my LR2 Icarsoft scanner to read the faults before I even open the hood. If you don't view the code history first you are really just grasping at straws.

KingKoopa 12-08-2017 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Best4x4 (Post 628504)
If you're having the 3 amigo's after performing Option B you either have a bad shuttle valve switch, bad ground, wiring issue, or a hub/wheel sensor problem.

The ABS SLABS unit will store hard faults like sensors and shuttle valves and the lights will not just go on/off. If the 3 amigos are there upon startup, and after a key cycle they go away you normally have a wiring issue/shuttle valve plug problem.

I use my LR2 Icarsoft scanner to read the faults before I even open the hood. If you don't view the code history first you are really just grasping at straws.


But see idk how sensors faults will cause hard codes that need to be cleared, because I've definitely changed a bad sensor and had all the lights turn off less than 100 yards from my driveway.

I guess I'll just invest in a better scantool. Foxwell nt510 seems like a good bet, I just wish there was something cheaper than the nanocom that would program keys and turn on / off bcu options.

Best4x4 12-10-2017 08:04 PM

Maybe a different firmware, but whenever I had a sensor fail = hard fault and had to be reset via a scanner. I like my Icarsoft LR2 scantool. I had one disconnect in a parking lot (loose connector) and had to deal with the 3 amigos the entire trip home.

KingKoopa 12-10-2017 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Best4x4 (Post 628775)
Maybe a different firmware, but whenever I had a sensor fail = hard fault and had to be reset via a scanner. I like my Icarsoft LR2 scantool. I had one disconnect in a parking lot (loose connector) and had to deal with the 3 amigos the entire trip home.

Interesting. Rovers never fail to trip me up.

Have two updates to report. I figured out that the three newest sensors I installed had a dome at the end of them and we're contacting the reluctor wheels. So I removed all three and spaced them out with a washer. I picked the thinnest ones I had laying around the garage but I won't know if they were too thick or not until my scanner gets here Tuesday.

KingKoopa 12-13-2017 06:44 PM

Alright, the 3 cheap sensors I bought are giving me grief. So which ones should I be buying that aren't $50 a piece?

Friday Night Disco 12-13-2017 07:05 PM

Well... LRDirect is pretty cheap including the international shipping

https://www.lrdirect.com/


SSW500030 rear is $26.65 each
SSW500020 front is $26.75 each

$20 bucks shipping to WA

KingKoopa 12-17-2017 06:34 PM

Hey guys, found some closure.

Cheap sensors were contacting the reluctor rings. Spaced them out but foxwell tool was showing 0mph on all three of them. So spaced them out with o rings pinched under the body of the sensors. Got speed readings but it immediately threw codes for all 3 sensors. Tried one more time with some super thin plastic washers, worked like a charm.
cleared the codes and the lights stayed off.

So lesson learned, cheap sensors need to be massaged a little to work correctly.

Thanks for the Input yal!

LR03NJ 12-17-2017 07:12 PM

King any pictures? Got 3 amigos now. LOL!

huggi 12-17-2017 09:41 PM

I used a relatively cheap sensor ($30), I'm getting cut wire code, not low output or whatever it would say if the signal was crap. Does that mean the sensor is bad and I should get another one instead of adjusting washers o rings etc?

KingKoopa 12-17-2017 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by LR03NJ (Post 629464)
King any pictures? Got 3 amigos now. LOL!

Wouldn't worry about pics until you know is issue. I would invest in a scanner that will read ABS. I should have done it the week I bought mine.

KingKoopa 12-17-2017 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by huggi (Post 629478)
I used a relatively cheap sensor ($30), I'm getting cut wire code, not low output or whatever it would say if the signal was crap. Does that mean the sensor is bad and I should get another one instead of adjusting washers o rings etc?

sounds like the sensor is bad or wire is clipped/grounded somewhere. Or you didn't get the plug seated all the way.

Best4x4 12-18-2017 11:41 AM

An ABS or LR Specific code reader will help a lot. I've used Ebay 45.00 for the entire set of ABS sensors without any issues. I normally always replace either per axle or all 4 when messing with ABS sensors. I compared the last set of generic ABS sensors to the OEM units and I didn't see any difference.

I used to think the ABS 3 Amigo's was a big deal until I got myself a decent scantool, and I read up on the Option B Mod which is the main weak link in the system. I'd say do the Option B Mod with a new set of shuttle valves (60.00 tops), after buying a D2, and maybe even the sensors themselves and then have a good long while until they pop up again.

KingKoopa 12-18-2017 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Best4x4 (Post 629528)
An ABS or LR Specific code reader will help a lot. I've used Ebay 45.00 for the entire set of ABS sensors without any issues. I normally always replace either per axle or all 4 when messing with ABS sensors. I compared the last set of generic ABS sensors to the OEM units and I didn't see any difference.

I used to think the ABS 3 Amigo's was a big deal until I got myself a decent scantool, and I read up on the Option B Mod which is the main weak link in the system. I'd say do the Option B Mod with a new set of shuttle valves (60.00 tops), after buying a D2, and maybe even the sensors themselves and then have a good long while until they pop up again.

Agreed, I really thought that abs codes were going to be much harder than they really are. But having someone scan them, and recently having my own scanner, has made it a non-issue


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