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batard 08-24-2016 10:37 AM

Yet another 3 amigos question
 
I recently got a Hawkeye diagnostic tool, which I'm hoping will be helpful with ABS-related stuff and brake bleeding, among other things. I hooked it up and read ABS codes, and it turned up "fault 4114 historical shuttle valve switch failure."

From what I can tell this is likely the classic 3 amigos issue. Do others concur? It seems I have a couple options: do an electrical hack or buy a new shuttle valve assembly for around $80 and hope it's not some other issue with the brake/wheel speed sensors. A couple questions for those in the know:

1) Are there additional steps I should take to isolate this as a shuttle valve issue, or does this fault code itself confirm that the fix is to replace/hack the valve?

2) Taking cost out of the equation for the moment, how would you compare option B here (ABS Mod - LAND ROVER CLUB V.I.) with replacing the shuttle assembly? Is replacing the assembly a less-permanent fix than option B?

Thanks, and sorry to dredge up something that's been covered so heavily already.

mln01 08-24-2016 11:40 AM

The Option B bypass and shuttle valve replacement address two different problems, either of which will trigger the code you report.

In my case I inspected and tested the switches per the Option B procedure. There was no brake fluid evident on them and electrical resistance passed the tests.

Some recommend going ahead and replacing the switches regardless but I'm something of a tightwad so I took the risk that the switches would fail later and I would have to spend and hour and a hundred bucks later to replace them. So far so good - five and a half years later.

https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...abs-mod-38632/

batard 08-24-2016 12:03 PM

Ah, ok, I think I get it. So if I go through the testing procedures on the Option B website and the shuttle valve doesn't pass, then I definitely need a new shuttle valve. If it does pass, then I know it's not the shuttle valve and Option B will solve it. I could optionally replace the shuttle valve while I'm there AND do Option B, but that costs more money.

That about right?

mln01 08-24-2016 01:37 PM

Yes, that's it. But in addition to testing resistance with an ohm meter be sure to carefully inspect the switches for any sign of brake fluid having leaked onto them.

OffroadFrance 08-24-2016 02:26 PM

Defo worth replacing the shuttle valves block and doing the mod B but I bought mine already modded on Ebay with a slightly better mod bypass. Not cheap but has never caused any further problems in 3 years ............... yet ;)

mln01 08-24-2016 03:30 PM

Or you can fix the Amigos yourself for an hour or two of your time, a $4 part (if that much), a soldering iron and solder plus a little heat shrink tubing. And if you want to be really fancy you could add a ring or spade connector for the ground connection.


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