1986 V8 Range Rover starter motor bolts
 

What size bolts secure the starter motor on 1986 V8's?

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Have at it :pointup::)

Just a Tip: Make sure to clean out the allen head bolt heads and make sure to press in the 8mm allen socket firmly before your round it off.

Thanks for helping me get well prepared for the job.Vehicle is stranded in middle of wet field dangling from an engine crane, need to drag the garage to it so the less I have to carry the better! "clean out the allen head bolt heads" made me chuckle, the amount of mud up there probably means the best tools would be a metal detector and a JCB digger

Bolts removed & starter hanging in place, just got the main + terminal to undo as didn't have the right spanner with me, so will have to go back again.

I noticed there is a metal heat shield just in front of the terminals of the starter, between it and the exhaust pipe.

It looks tricky to maneuver the starter past this heat shield when removing. Can anyone who has done the job before, give any tips..

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I think this is the style of heat shield you have:pointup:. That heat shield has to be removed before you can get the starter out.
Just a bolt and a nut, have a look you'll see the hardware that has to come off. When you find them, spray the fasteners with some penetrating oil before you try to remove. Good Luck! :cheers:

Thanks

The piece of metal I can see, looks different, much more plain and angular

It's maybe item 4
"Heatshield assembly exhaust-downpipe NTC4602 [V8 - EFi]"
on this page:
http://www.allbrit.de/UNI.cfm?PAGE=807466&SPRACHE=EN

If so, it lists one screw holding it on
"Screw FS106255L[V8 - EFi - flanged head - M6 x 25]"

- so I guess it's just the same really?

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The heat shield in the ebay listing is made to protect the motor mount and not the starter. It's possible someone made the shield. If you can't figure how to remove it, just post a pic of what you are looking at.

Another heat shield option ( ERR3601 ) is in the pic above. It bolts on the bottom and clamps to the solenoid. This is normally found on later RRC and DIs.

I had an '85 years ago so I'm not really too sure about the heat shield but if it is #4 like you think, check the motor mount bracket. The bolt holding the heat shield in place may pass through the motor mount bracket. Check the bracket from the front. Feel around for the head of a single bolt. I know that on much later Rovers like the DI and DII there is a much larger heat shield that has a clip for attachment to the starter as well as a bolt that passes through the motor mount bracket. On those trucks the head of the bolt is 10mm.

Looking back at that diagram, I think the heat shield OverRover is showing is what is on your truck. Take a look at #12 because that spacer could be causing confusion. I want to say the bolt that holds the heat shield, #11 in to #12 is a 1/2" whereas the spacer is 9/16th." I just don't recall a stud, #15, being used but like I said, it's been a long time since I had my '85.

The plain, angular heat shield you're talking about is for the down pipe and that may be mounted to the motor mount bracket.

Thanks - starter now removed :-)

Turns out the sheild I was talking about was for the downpipe yes - it seemed to be bolted to the engine mount with a 10?mm bolt. In the event I did manage to wiggle the starter downwards and past the shield, by bending the shield a little.

Don't know if maybe, any other shields are missing from mine - didn't have to remove anything else in the end.

If all that was there was the downpipe shield, you are missing the shield for the starter. It's the one OverRover had a picture of. I guess they're still available new given his photo.

I wonder of the newer, one piece style found on the DI's would work for you. That style clips on to the starter and bolts on through the motor mount bracket. It works and is a lot easier to remove. I have used ones in stock should you choose that route. You may opt for nothing at all. It just gets pretty hot down there, maybe not has hot in non catalytic trucks but, still....

An awful lot of bodywork & trim has been removed from my truck, it's been converted to a pure bare-bones offroader so access for cooling air is at the max really. Given that I only really use it for very short periods as a farm runaround, I can probably get away with it. Seems to have been okay for the past couple of years like that anyway, & no signs of any obvious heat damage to the starter having had a good look at it in the daylight.

After all this I'm now strongly suspecting the original issue was just, a loose trigger wire.. it fell off the lug the minute I started wiggling the starter!

All the same, I've ordered a new unit.

I had the same problem with the wiring falling of the spade on the solenoid with my '85. I'd pull up to a store, shut the truck off, come out, turn the key, nothing. I'd hop out, reattach the wire and be on my way. Finally, I replaced the female connector at the end of the wire and never had a problem again.

Picked up new starter today, cost £120 but having spent the money am glad I did. New starter is considerably smaller than original one and thus went back in SO much easier. Just that extra maybe, half an inch more clearance & a bit less weight.. Glad in the end I didn't mess around trying to fix brushes etc.

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Good to see you got it sorted. IMHO I agree it's fair better to replace the starter motor like you did than to rebuild it.

If you find that you still want the heat shield but don't want to spend ROVER prices you can always get a Starter Heat Shield Wrap. In The US they run about $15 - $25 and I'm sure you can find one on your side of The Pond.

It looks like this > https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dei-010384