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SoCalWiley 09-11-2018 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by CJ455 (Post 661582)
Does it make refueling on gas a bit more of a struggle? Since it may be hard to tell if the engine is off?

No, it's clear when the engine is off. What was initially confusing is that sometimes when you put it in Park the engine automatically shuts off and sometimes it doesn't. I've found that in my case it's the level of A/C that is in use. If it's on heavy cool and fans are blowing the engine will stay on, but if the air is low it will turn the engine off with the air staying on. If I wait too long without opening the door the engine will turn back on, but if I open the door then the engine is off for good. It does make sense after a bit of getting used to it.


Originally Posted by vulturez (Post 661587)
I have kind of gotten use to it. There is some logic behind it. For example it seems if you stop the car, put it into park and then remove your seatbelt and remove pressure from the break it shuts off. If you keep your foot on the break, it won't shut off. I would have to make a list of the identified conditions but I have started getting use to it and it is very obvious if you look at the console or the Touch Pro, as it says "Climate off" when it shuts the engine off permanently.

My experience as well, though I feel like there should have been a pamphlet included up front. The most unexpected thing is that I now actually enjoy the engine shutting off at stoplights and everything going quite for a minute; it's a moment of zen.

BritCars 09-11-2018 03:53 PM

My wife still finds this very confusing. Sometimes it turns itself off, sometimes it's just the stop start and when she lifts off the brake the engine starts up again...
We tried to find the sequence of gear in park, foot off brake, undo seatbelt and open door. If you do them in the right order if turns off every time. But in real world driving when you do those together it can throw you
At least on ours (2018) it's very clear when the dash display goes totally blank then it's fully off...

ToiletDuck 09-11-2018 04:49 PM

Does the td6 have auto shutoff? If so I’m going to have to disable that. What an annoyance. It’s a diesel it doesn’t save anything and I wonder what it does to the power system

Black 18 Disco 09-11-2018 05:25 PM

My 2018 Td6 has auto shutoff. The auto on/off system is pretty easy to live with in traffic and has worked without consequence. As soon as your foot comes off the brake it restarts. When stopping and it turns itself off automatically and you intend to shut the vehicle down anyway, just put it in park, open the door, get out of the vehicle and take the key fob with you. It will stay off - at least mine has.

ToiletDuck 09-27-2018 06:10 AM

How is it the reasoning for not going with a td6 is the short trips yet the diesel has auto start/stop?

gritz45 10-18-2018 09:33 AM

What an annoying and useless feature. Surely must decrease battery and starter life, particularly with compression and rotating mass of diesel. I click it off when I fasten my seatbelt. I have closely monitored my fuel economy while using it and with it disabled, cannot see any relevant change.

CJ455 10-23-2018 12:59 PM

Wonder why they decided to make it that way. Perhaps it's not a big issue though, if fuel economy does not noticeably get affected.

andries 10-23-2018 04:04 PM

Probably some emissions number looks better in city driving with the feature, but honestly don't see the point on the D5 (especially the TD6). Hybrids make a lot of sense to do this, but not on a larger engine big SUV. Wish there is the ability to permanently turn it off. Haven't gotten the D5 yet, but knows it is going to drive my wife nuts.

BritCars 10-23-2018 06:30 PM

It is for improving emissions and is a required feature to meet their emissions disclosures. Hence they cannot turn it off for you
It does make a meaningful difference in both petrol and diesel vehicles. Of course if you only do long freeway driving it won't make much difference - but it also won't operate so you shouldn't mind it. Around town it's very significant. You get used to it pretty quickly


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