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Lemmings4Life 02-14-2022 09:53 PM

Interesting, anyone have pics of such a setup with the "right" staggered look? I have Vossens incoming with +35 offset.

Nanozic 02-15-2022 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Lemmings4Life (Post 813626)
Interesting, anyone have pics of such a setup with the "right" staggered look? I have Vossens incoming with +35 offset.

Most of the Urban Automotive wheel setups run 22in staggered. et35 up front and et25 in the rear. Just another data point.
https://houseofurban.co.uk/collectio...der-2020-wheel

GrouseK9 02-15-2022 08:40 AM

@Nanozic - Out of curiosity, why is that? Is it a style thing? Ok, I'm a 20th century curmudgeon and it could be lost on me! Or, is it a performance thing? If performance, can you describe what that set up does differently? Rapidly trying to clean up my old school cobwebs and actually learn something here.

Nanozic 02-15-2022 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by GrouseK9 (Post 813663)
@Nanozic - Out of curiosity, why is that? Is it a style thing? Ok, I'm a 20th century curmudgeon and it could be lost on me! Or, is it a performance thing? If performance, can you describe what that set up does differently? Rapidly trying to clean up my old school cobwebs and actually learn something here.


Originally Posted by anotherbillcat (Post 813624)
💯 For the longest time I didn't like Defenders because the inward wheels on the rear looked weird, then I seen a proper set-up... and it was a cool, capable truck. Always impressed with how proper wheels and tires make a vehicle.

I would say in this case, purely aesthetics. As anotherbillcat mentions, the rear wheels seem to sit further into the wheel arches than the front does. So, to balance it out, you can run a lower offset in the rear than the front.

Lemmings4Life 02-15-2022 09:28 AM

Well to push out the back wheels I could also get a 10mm spacer for the 25mm offfset then?

Ehloo 02-15-2022 09:58 AM

technically you can but the spacer conversation is more directed at the stock wheels. every wheel that has been discussed beside the Urban is a square offset settup. same front and back. when you go aggressive on the offset the rear might sit flush with the fender but your front might like a poke a little. i am running into this but it’s not a bad look

the issue with the urban settup is that you can rotate your tires without dismounting all 4. All Terrain tires should be rotated ever 5k miles.

the ideal settup to sit flush to the fenders on the stock wheels is around +10 offset. Remember that’s based on a 8.5 width wheel. wider wheels push the extra width equally from both sides. so say going with a 9 or 9.5 wouldn’t need such a low offset anymore on an aftermarket wheel

there is differences in tire manufacture and even within the brand. if you are pushing minimal clearance be prepared that you will rub in access height or maybe in other heights. something you just have to understand and accept




Originally Posted by Lemmings4Life (Post 813666)
Well to push out the back wheels I could also get a 10mm spacer for the 25mm offfset then?


TIE1ONALWAYS 02-15-2022 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Ehloo (Post 813677)
technically you can but the spacer conversation is more directed at the stock wheels. every wheel that has been discussed beside the Urban is a square offset settup. same front and back. when you go aggressive on the offset the rear might sit flush with the fender but your front might like a poke a little. i am running into this but it’s not a bad look

the issue with the urban settup is that you can rotate your tires without dismounting all 4. All Terrain tires should be rotated ever 5k miles.

the ideal settup to sit flush to the fenders on the stock wheels is around +10 offset. Remember that’s based on a 8.5 width wheel. wider wheels push the extra width equally from both sides. so say going with a 9 or 9.5 wouldn’t need such a low offset anymore on an aftermarket wheel

there is differences in tire manufacture and even within the brand. if you are pushing minimal clearance be prepared that you will rub in access height or maybe in other heights. something you just have to understand and accept

Thanks Ehloo - good info & insight. what about the thoughts of using the stock factory 22"'s (9" rim) going to a wider 285 (from 275) and using a little larger spacer on the rear (equivelant of) - maybe +25 or +30 ? and a little lesser spacer in the front ? next question if yes... would be - And are there hub centric spacers that fit well for the 2021 Defender?

GrouseK9 02-15-2022 11:22 AM

Doah! I knew the body tapered towards the rear, but didn't realize that the axel widths were different. Thanks for the insight. Front is .2" wider. Anyone have a reason why? Cosmetic or performance? I wouldn't imagine that the little increase would change driving/steering but I'm definitely not knowledgeable enough to know.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/landrov...9ac60327b6.jpg



anotherbillcat 02-15-2022 12:16 PM

Shorter rear axle... that explains the oddity! Maybe it increases off-road crawling capability. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I have 20x9 Project Kahn wheels with 35mm offset waiting for my Defender to arrive anyday now. Still debating on tire size.

I've been told spacers diminish the hub centric benefits so not inclined to use spacers if I don't have to.

Great info here, thank you.





RR2Dfndr 03-20-2022 02:48 PM

Update: I just installed the Vossen HF2 20" +20 offset wheels with 275/55/20 Cooper tires. There is no rub on normal height, and a very slight rub on access height with full lock.
I highly recommend getting new wheels with this offset than installing spacers on stocks rims, which I had done for 1000 miles.


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