So how quickly can I do something about my factory offroad tires?! The fail on TFLOfffroad is embarrassing. My brother and his new bronco order are going roll right over me.


I've read all the threads. Got a little lost on one. What can I do keeping the stock 20" wheels? Maybe the 1" lift rods and then what rubber? I really don't want to add any more noise (have lunch box, ladder and OEM roofrack) or downgrade the on road drive. I hear the Lucky8 rock sliders add noise and don't like all the underbody felt is removed.

What say you folks?

 

don't take trails like they did? not sure what else you can do if you plan to run 20's. i can't envision how anything done to the 110 will overcome the benefit of the 33's or 35's on the rubi and bronco in that video.

even if going down to 19's, 33" tires, and the 1" lift on the 110 it will not come close to 17's with 33's or 35's IMO.

 

For context, TFL originally specced their long term Defender with the P300, 18" steelies, off road packs and nothing else. That Defender was a lemon (iirc their engine blew in the first 300 miles). They then got a replacement that the dealership mangled (they cut some irreplaceable wiring harness). Then they got this Defender off the lot, with the P400 and 20" wheels (no front skid plate or rear locking diff). Since they only generally test stock configurations, that's what they had on hand and it uhhhh....wasnt up to the task lmao.

IMO if you want to tackle rock like this, you have to ditch the 20s. Caliper swap and 18s with 33 inch tires with a 1" rod lift, I'd do lucky8 rock rails personally for those times that you just need to be able to rest/pivot the truck on an obstacle (plus they extend protection under the truck quite a bit). Its all a compromise ,and you still probably wont be able to crawl the same rocks as the stock sasquatch Bronco...it is what it is

 

Completely agree. You can turn your P400 into a decent rock crawler if that’s how you like to spend your time. Lucky8 swap, sliders, lift, beefy tires, will get you there. LR could offer a Bigfoot model with all the above and position closer to the Bronco, but they clearly have chosen to leave that to after market and instead offer a light off-road package that is better suited to basic over landing or smoother terrain. TFL had no problems for instance in Moab with the adventures. It’s really these kind of rocks where the sidewalls will put you away. As for the sliders, they do increase noise a tiny bit, but they offer amazing protection and double as nice steps.

 

Two things:

1. Don't use a standard Defender to do that level of off roading.
2. Buy a Jeep with rock crawling wheels and tires.
3. Don't watch clickbait channels like TFL.

Sorry, that was three things.

 

First and foremost: I would not rock crawl the new Defender without the Lucky 8 Rock Sliders AND the front OEM underguard. The monocoque alum/steel construction of the vehicle will not be able to endure a rock strike on the sill -- and the repair would be difficult, if possible at all.

I admit I took a few foolish chances in heat of the excitement of finally having the new Defender -- I was lucky and escaped a rock strike.

Rock crawling with the Lucky 8 sliders and the OEM front underguard is a night and day experience in happiness from not having that safety net.

Adding any of the other items is secondary (IMO).

By the way, I added the felt back when I did my rock slider install and am very happy with it. You may see my thread on it --- lots of detail and pictures.

 

I don't plan on doing what they are up to, but, Baja calls and wanted something a little more able. I have the offroad package and the advanced offroad package. I am leaning towards the Nitto or the K02's for the tire swap and then the question is max size on the standard rims without lift or max size with the 1" lift and how do either of these affect road manners and noise. I have the K02 on a tacoma and found there to be left noise than the stock and better ride due to the amount of rubber. I wonder if teh extra rubber on the 110 makes it 'sloppy' or 'too soft' on the road?

 

An fyi ..... For tires, I have decided to add stock size 255/70 R18s -- either Nittro Ridge Grapplers OR BFG KO2s -- as soon as my OEM ATs wear out a bit more.

I have just received the Johnson 1.5" lift rods and will use them when off-roading and remove them when using the vehicle as a daily driver. In the future, I might add the electronic LLAMS rod upgrade -- but not this year.

 

Agree as well. Even with the light stuff I’ve done, having the sliders gives piece of mind, and the wife and grandma love them as steps. I keep thinking to put the felt back on like you, but a combination of laziness and anticipation that lucky8 will come out with some more armor, keeps me from doing it. Now I’m thinking of that beautiful lucky8 winch.

 

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