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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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We have had a few members that got agitated with their Rovers and tried to use brute force to resolve problems instead of trying to understand the true problem and using some degree of finesse.

Excessive force usually just complicates the issues and adds to the problem(s).

Even though it may be tempting to grab a bigger hammer and beat on things to get them to work, I usually try to avoid that until all other methods have been thoroughly exhausted.

Glad you managed to get it to work. We had one former Discovery owner who actually broke his steering linkages trying to yank the steering wheel harder to Make the Key release work.

Be careful and use more finesse. When finesse fails, get the biggest hammer available, bust the living **** out of it then fix what is left.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco
Be careful and use more finesse. When finesse fails, get the biggest hammer available, bust the living **** out of it then fix what is left.
If done right, there shouldn't be anything left to fix.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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So did that take care of the key release issue as well?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Havent re-installed yet cause I need to re-grease the mechanisms, but I am 99% sure it will.

Rave says ROCOL E1 or equivalent for grease and Silcoset for the sealer on the case. I looked those up and they are british products.

Think I can just use some all-purpose grease and high-temp silicone seal?

White lithium?
 

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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkytoe69
Havent re-installed yet cause I need to re-grease the mechanisms, but I am 99% sure it will.

Rave says ROCOL E1 or equivalent for grease and Silcoset for the sealer on the case. I looked those up and they are british products.

Think I can just use some all-purpose grease and high-temp silicone seal?

White lithium?
What are you talking about sealing?

I used the Lucas Red Tractor Grease to completely fill the upper mechanism with. If you look at the pics in my sig you will see the red grease I applied when I finished it up. It is a waterproof, high temp synthetic grease made for tractors and severe environments.

I still believe this was more a case of damage rather than an interlock malfunction.

You said your diff lock was stuck, right.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Can I get that red Lucas at any ol' auto parts store?

In retrospect I didnt have to take the side of the selector box off to get the shifter out, but Higgs said to get rid of the brake switch/Park interlock solenoid as it will cause problems at some point. So I took the side off and removed the solenoid. RAVE says to use sealer when putting the side of the box back on.

And no, there was no electrical system related problem. Just your basic "something got bent in a male/female sliding mechanism and is now binding" problem.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Oh, and yeah, my transfer shifter is stuck in 4H. Im pretty sure it is corrosion in the shifter mechanism, but Ill check the neutral switch when I get a chance.

If it isnt a simple switch problem though, Im gonna hold off as 95% of normal driving situations arent affected by it.

Im sick, and surgery on that right now, with the rivets and mucho PB blastering, does not sound appealing.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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OK I see. Lucas Red is available in a large tube that will fit one of the full size grease guns or you can do like i did and just pop the top off and dig it out and apply it. Most parts places should have it with the heavy duty lubricants, I think it was only about five bucks a tube.

Sealing the thing up good is a good idea. I would use something that will fully cure to a good bond to seal it, not like some of the form a gasket stuff that still remains pliable. Something waterproof and high temp preferably.

As far as the CDL, I had totally removed and rebuilt mine from the top down. You can jump directly to that bottom selector plate, spray it all good first, then put a socket on that nut (13mm?) with long extension and attempt to loosen that nut (CCW rotation looking down from above). If you can rotate the plate at the center, it should move the entire shifter linkage as well as lock the cdl, cw rotation will unlock it.

I would encourage you to go ahead and attempt that while you have it open, that may be all it takes to get it moving again. If not, go ahead and spray it good with degreaser while you have the thing opened up so well.

Good Luck.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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this one?




So, just turning that can get it out of 4H?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Pinky,
I have a sneaking feeling that you may not fully understand the Discovery 4WD and how it is supposed to work.

1. It is permamemt 4 wheel drive (always).
2. You can either be in Hi or N or Low with the Transfer case.
3. You can have the Center Diff Unlocked (for most driving conditions) or Locked (for Slick stuff) and this is true regardless of whether you are in Hi or Low.
4. You do not have a 2 wheel drive setting on a stock Dsicovery (unless you remove one or the other driveshaft or modify the unit with special parts available).

Turning the item in the picture does lock and unlock the Center Diff. oes it move when you move the short shifter side to side? If it does, it is working as designed.

Does this info help?

Did you think it had a two wheeel drive setting?

Sorry if this sounds blunt.
 
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