Dudes, I need help
#11
09-14-2011, 11:50 AM
Rock Crawling
i THOUGHT that if i disconnected the battery for over a minute that it cleared the codes as well. The issue with autozone or advance lending out the scanner is that (at least in philadelphia) they stopped doing that at the ones ive been to because people kept stealing them. Gotta love philly! I'll def try and get the got reset the right way. I was trying to save up for a scanguageII anyway, but i really want my truck back. I think im going ot try and see if i can find a station that'll pass me, just so i can get the truck back down here, and then i can start methodically working through the issues. Geek, the upstreams are brand new, im (pretty) sure it's not them. But Brian (longhaul) is right, my truck does MOW through o2's. So maybe i'll have to check that ECM connection. If resetting it with the autozone monitor doesnt work, then i'll try and get it stickered and grab a scangauge and start working through things. the good news is that if it IS bad cats, it gives me an excuse to buy a welder. haha. Thank you guys for your input, i'll keep you posted. (it has sucked to not have my truck with the 13" of rain we got last week)
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Turf
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Turf
Depending on where you are in Philly, I am only about 2 hours South of you - about 20 minutes north of DC.
If you are having issues getting the codes read, let me know - we can probably figure out a place to meet and you can use my reader.
Or, I can send it to you via USPS and you can send it back when your done - your choice.
Good Luck!
Chris
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09-14-2011, 12:17 PM
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Turf -
Depending on where you are in Philly, I am only about 2 hours South of you - about 20 minutes north of DC.
If you are having issues getting the codes read, let me know - we can probably figure out a place to meet and you can use my reader.
Or, I can send it to you via USPS and you can send it back when your done - your choice.
Good Luck!
Chris
Depending on where you are in Philly, I am only about 2 hours South of you - about 20 minutes north of DC.
If you are having issues getting the codes read, let me know - we can probably figure out a place to meet and you can use my reader.
Or, I can send it to you via USPS and you can send it back when your done - your choice.
Good Luck!
Chris
-James
#13
09-14-2011, 03:16 PM
Turf -
Depending on where you are in Philly, I am only about 2 hours South of you - about 20 minutes north of DC.
If you are having issues getting the codes read, let me know - we can probably figure out a place to meet and you can use my reader.
Or, I can send it to you via USPS and you can send it back when your done - your choice.
Good Luck!
Chris
Depending on where you are in Philly, I am only about 2 hours South of you - about 20 minutes north of DC.
If you are having issues getting the codes read, let me know - we can probably figure out a place to meet and you can use my reader.
Or, I can send it to you via USPS and you can send it back when your done - your choice.
Good Luck!
Chris
Chris, very generous thanks. and actually GeekIM reached out to help me too, he's just in south jersey. I'm currently slated to get soem help from geek on sunday, but as i was just telling him, the house and truck woes are now complicated by my wife having been in the hospital for three days. She has a really bad kidney infection and they've kept her for three days. SIGH. whats the expression? "when it rains, it hurricanes?" haha. None the less, i want to thank all of you guys for your support. The truck may be taking a back seat to the wife for a while. But thank you guys. If it ever gets resolved i'll obviously shout it from the roof tops, i have spring spacers and hellas collecting dust, just waiting to be put on the truck
(not to mention LRDII's demo snorkel he's sending me, hint hint, haha).
Seriously, thank you all
Turf
#14
09-14-2011, 04:09 PM
Rock Crawling
#16
09-14-2011, 09:11 PM
#17
09-17-2011, 12:16 PM
UPDATE: the saga continue. I borrowed a scanner and the codes the truck had were initially 1191 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Open Downstream" and 1194 "Oxygen Sensor Heater High Resistance Downstream" but i had replaced the downstream o2's so i assumed this code was wrong. Cleared the codes, and drove it all day today. Finally, the check engine light came back on BUT......this time NO O2 codes!! It came back with a 0300 "multiple misfire" and an 0303 "cylinder 3 misfire" and a 1316 "Misfire Excessive Emissions Fault" I'm waiting for the truck to cool down now and i'll check my new kingsbourne 8mm's as im not THRILLED with their fit. but to be fair i didnt get the wider looms to hold them. i just never liked how they did(n't) click onto the plugs well. If it's just a loose plug wire, then i think i might have this thing licked! Does anybody think that it could also be a plug gap? I gapped em myself but do i need to go back and check all of them? I'm close, i feel good about this. let me know what you guys think.
Turf
although the 1316 is a little disconcerting, thoughts?
Turf
although the 1316 is a little disconcerting, thoughts?
Last edited by turf63; 09-17-2011 at 12:23 PM. Reason: 1316, not 1361
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09-17-2011, 12:33 PM
just searched the 1316 code. On it's own, it doesnt sound good. Sticking valves? I wish i had known that when i had the valley pan out. But when i had the heads open doing the valley pan, they looked good. Do you think theres a possibility it's NOT sticking valves when it's in conjunction with my other codes? the heads loked good when they were open. Alos, PT said there's no way to clean the valve without tearing down if it is sticking, do we agree with that? Deep breath.....im gonna get this truck stickered
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09-18-2011, 08:09 AM
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I had sticky valves, or sticky valve. No one seemed to be able to diagnose it except for a guy on the Motorcars forum - no disrespect intended. I replaced the VSS, and did the Seafoam. No joy. It's exhaust valves that get stuck and Seafoam will not help them. I think it may have been from the PO using regular gas, but it is not uncommon. I pulled the heads and took them to a good shop that did a complete valve job. The guy also shimmed a couple of the valve springs that were weak. He thought that might be a contributor to the problem. It's been a couple of years now, and no problems. It's not a terrible job, if you take your time and follow the instructions. Altogether with gaskets, valve job, new head bolts it cost me $500 - $600. It was hard to see when the heads were off, but the last exhaust valve back on the right was a different color than the rest. It must have been near being burned (or burnt ?).
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09-18-2011, 08:21 AM
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Sticky Valves
"Ok, ya wanna hate me now or later?
I swear that I didn't notice the 1316 code before, so shame on me. But almost without fail, if you have a P1316 code, that is a mechanical misfire.....exhaust valves are sticking bud."
That's the reply I got from Ken Karr at Motorcars when I reported a missfire are highway speeds. And he was right. May not be your problem, but ... just trying to help.
I swear that I didn't notice the 1316 code before, so shame on me. But almost without fail, if you have a P1316 code, that is a mechanical misfire.....exhaust valves are sticking bud."
That's the reply I got from Ken Karr at Motorcars when I reported a missfire are highway speeds. And he was right. May not be your problem, but ... just trying to help.