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NiteTrain 10-13-2008 04:56 PM

03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
I know somebody with an '03 DII and they're trying to find out if theirs has the bad oil pump. I know its been discussed on here a lot but I cant find the VIN range for the bad pumps, anybody know?

jmrivera 10-13-2008 05:31 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
It's 3A771801 - 3A808362...

I've got one in the range...

Jonathan

NiteTrain 10-13-2008 10:02 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
jonathan, thanks for the info.

Different Drummer 10-13-2008 10:20 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Do understand, it's not a bad oil pump. It's the way it's mounted to the motor that causes stress to the pump. Also, if your Disco is within the VIN range, it doesn't necessarily mean you have certain pump failure in your future. It just means that's the range where the flawed design could cause that stress on the pump. If you already have a lot of miles on your Disco without any problems, then it's unlikely you'll see any problems going forward. I've got 119,000 miles on mine with no pump failures, but then I guess it could fail tomorrow... For that matter, I've also seen posts from people who have 04's that had oil pump failures, but there's not a TSB on 04's.... at least not yet.

NiteTrain 10-13-2008 10:25 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
drummer, I thought the discos in the bad range had pumps that did not provide enough pressure.

willrok13 10-14-2008 04:36 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Drummer is right. The pump itself seems to be ok, it's the drunk machinist that screwed us...

03DiscoSE 10-14-2008 11:32 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
I've got a 3A785....it's an 03 with almost 88K on it. Should I be concerned? Haven't had any issues to date.....

willrok13 10-14-2008 11:56 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
I think it's pretty much hit or miss, maybe your maintenance habits play a role also (probably). I have an '03, and to be honest, I don't want to know if it's in the range or not! I have read where some '04's have come up with the problem as well.

NiteTrain 10-14-2008 12:04 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
ok just to sum up, this is a design flaw and there is no cost feasible way to repair it?

willrok13 10-14-2008 12:10 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
LR says the only way to repair it is to replace the entire engine ($10,000). Or you could find a *gently* used one for about $4,000. I guess you could do some "preventative" maintenance by replacing the pump every 45,000 whether or not it needs it ($400??). It's up to you, but just because your VIN falls in some "range", I wouldn't freak out.

NiteTrain 10-14-2008 12:30 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
willrok, thanks for the info. This was for a friend, I have a '99 DII.

Spike555 10-14-2008 06:41 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Thay always say its for a "friend".
Signs that the oil pump is going south is a flickering oil light at warm idle, like at a stop light or in a drive thru.

NiteTrain 10-14-2008 07:19 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
lol seriously spike it is for a friend. young couple that just had a baby, didnt want to see them have an unexpected major repair. you know I'm all about the 99-mid 01 DIIs so I can keep up with you D1 guys on rock. ;)

jmrivera 10-14-2008 07:21 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 


ORIGINAL: Spike555

Thay always say its for a "friend".
Signs that the oil pump is going south is a flickering oil light at warm idle, like at a stop light or in a drive thru.
Not always... My oil light has been acting funny and I wasted $1000 in replacing it and it's still on... Tomorrow, Rob @ SouthWest Rovers is going to replace rod and main bearings...

Any suggestions other than cam bearings???

Jonathan

Spike555 10-14-2008 07:35 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Other than cam bearings? Lifters.

03DiscoSE 10-15-2008 08:30 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Just curious but if LR is aware of this "design flaw" how come there's no service bulletin or recall on it? I work for BMW and if this had happened on a car or X3/5, they'd be all over it to keep the customers satisfied and avoida lawsuit.

Jupiter Rover 10-15-2008 09:05 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
There is a Service bullitin.

03DiscoSE 10-15-2008 09:18 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
And I would be expected to pay for LR's negligence? I better not end up having issues with mine LOL

willrok13 10-15-2008 01:34 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Are you in the effected VIN range? And yes, for some reason we are expected to foot the bill. It's kind of like how they say Volvo's are the safest cars in the world.... they never leave the driveway!

Spike555 10-15-2008 07:03 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
03DiscoSE-They found out about the flaw while under Fords ownership, well Ford is all but bankrupt so they wouldnt cover anything. So to try and save themselves they sold LR to Tata Motors in India. It helped but they are still in trouble.
So now the big three get to share a 25 billlion dollar bailout ontop of the 700 billion that will be used to bailout Wall Street.

willrok13-Our Volvo leaves the driveway more than our Land Rover, not only is it one of the safest station wagons in the world, it also seats seven, gets low to mid 30's (mpg)on the expressway and it will give a 2007 5.7L Pontiac GTO a run for its money from zero to 60.


jmrivera 10-15-2008 09:40 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 


ORIGINAL: 03DiscoSE

Just curious but if LR is aware of this "design flaw" how come there's no service bulletin or recall on it? I work for BMW and if this had happened on a car or X3/5, they'd be all over it to keep the customers satisfied and avoid a lawsuit.
There was a TSB (technical service bulletin) for the repair while the vehicle was under warranty, but after that, you're on your own... Here is a copy I found online and saved for myself...

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...lrna_tsb-1.jpg

In fact, there is a guy that is posting on other Forums about a personal lawsuit and he wants to 'round the troops together for a class-action lawsuit since it was a design flaw and they knew about it...

Jonathan

03DiscoSE 10-16-2008 10:13 AM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
Well, unfortunately, my vehicle does fall into the VIN range. I'm all about joining the army for this!

thehulk 10-17-2008 11:20 PM

RE: 03 bad oil pumps VIN range
 
my 03 also falls in the bad vin range so I told my dealer to get me a full coverage warranty (3rd party warranty) just in case it did blow. Its got 75k miles on it and nothings happened so far.


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