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Trying to make the most out of un-used wiring and relays in my truck and was wondering where the ACE power feed runs to? Id like to use it to power my ARB compressor which will likely be in the rear of the truck.
 
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Do you want only Paul to answer this or what? Here is the diagram you need.
ACE wiring diagram.pdf
 
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No but he usually has very detailed pictures, wire gauges and descriptions of everything.
The wiring diagram is helpful, thanks!
 
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No but he usually has very detailed pictures, wire gauges and descriptions of everything.
The wiring diagram is helpful, thanks!
You are welcome. Did the diagram answer your questions? If you are trying to reach Paul directly you can try to PM him.
 
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Yes, but not all of them... I was really hoping to find out what kind of plug terminates the wiring on a non ACE car, and where I could find it so I dont go aimlessly searching for it. Figured it would be best to post a thread so others could see the info too if they were interested
 
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And instead of making another thread, does anyone know the power rating of the dash switches? Specifically the D1 switches? The solenoids on the compressor say 5W @ 12v and if my calculations are correct that would come out to a little under .5A draw
Maybe a worthwhile experiment since the switches are relatively cheap
 
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And instead of making another thread, does anyone know the power rating of the dash switches? Specifically the D1 switches? The solenoids on the compressor say 5W @ 12v and if my calculations are correct that would come out to a little under .5A draw
Maybe a worthwhile experiment since the switches are relatively cheap
use a relay.. never wire directly to the switch
 
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Originally Posted by vette427sbc
Trying to make the most out of un-used wiring and relays in my truck and was wondering where the ACE power feed runs to? Id like to use it to power my ARB compressor which will likely be in the rear of the truck.
Wouldn't the SLS compressor lead be more desirable? The SLS pump is on the outside frame rail on the left side of the truck.. you will see the bracket, and the wire will be tucked up there somewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by vette427sbc
Trying to make the most out of un-used wiring and relays in my truck and was wondering where the ACE power feed runs to? Id like to use it to power my ARB compressor which will likely be in the rear of the truck.

Do you mean ACE, or SLS (Self Levelling Suspension) ?

There are no decent sized power feeds with ACE, only low current feeds to the ACE ECU, and low voltage (5V) wires to the upper and lower accelerometers, with even lower voltage signal wires returning to the ACE ECU.

The wiring to the solenoid valves in the ACE block, are controlled by the ACE ECU - so, are of little use on their own.


However, the SLS system has a decent sized feed to the SLS compressor (mounted on the outside of the LH chassis rail), which is run from the engine compartment fuse box in 3.0mm˛ White/Black cable.

If your vehicle never had SLS from the factory, there will be no 3.0mm˛ White/Black cable in the chassis harness, from the engine compartment to the compressor location.

However, the single-way connector (C0579) for it is present on the underside of the fuse box on all vehicles, as is the 3.0mm˛ White/Black cable - but, only as far as the main harness/chassis harness connector junction C0376/C0390

If you wanted to manually control the SLS relay (R5) in the engine compartment fuse box, this is easily done.

In normal operation, the relay is controlled by the SLABS ECU, which supplies a live to the relay's terminal 85, via C0577-7 on the underside of the engine compartment fuse box.

You could use a switched live to C0577-7 to control R5, to switch an output on C0579. The supply to R5 comes via the 30A fusible link FL9, which may not be present in non-SLS vehicles (easily added).

You could pickup the live output directly at C0579 (I have the proper connectors for this) - or, add the missing terminal to C0390.

Adding the terminal to C0390 is probably the easiest and cheapest option.

I have terminals and wire seals to fit this connector - but it would easier and cheaper to get them yourself from a BMW dealer.

C0379 (female) and C0390 (male), are BMW 2-way sealed 2.5mm pin and socket connectors.

I have BMW part numbers for the terminals and seals, if you need them.



Originally Posted by vette427sbc
And instead of making another thread, does anyone know the power rating of the dash switches? Specifically the D1 switches? The solenoids on the compressor say 5W @ 12v and if my calculations are correct that would come out to a little under .5A draw
Maybe a worthwhile experiment since the switches are relatively cheap

I would 2nd what 'primussucks' has said, and recommend that you use the D1 switches with a relay.

I dismantled a damaged (it didn't latch properly) D1 front fog lamps switch (AMR4138), and the insides weren't particularly impressive -

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Im already using the SLS wiring and relay for my front spot lamps, the ACE is the only open relay left but if it isnt beefy enough for the compressor I wont use it. As for the switches, I will use a relay to power the compressor, but the solenoids only draw 5W @ 12v which should come out to .41 amps. I know, more than a regular relay coil, but I dont want to clutter up my wiring with relays if I dont have to. IMO, those contacts look like they might handle the .41amp draw of the solenoids. Im going to bench test that and report back.
Thanks for the replies!

EDIT:
My calculations were close... The solenoids draw 495mA. I grabbed a standard 12v 40A relay and the coil draws 125mA. Grabbing a switch now to test it
 

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