Discovery II Talk about the Land Rover Discovery II within.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Can I install TF 2" lift shocks without the 2" lift springs?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-27-2016, 08:00 PM
jamieb's Avatar
Winching
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 676
Received 37 Likes on 36 Posts
Default Can I install TF 2" lift shocks without the 2" lift springs?

I have 18" wheels with 255/55/18 tires. Shocks are bad. I am not ready to upgrade to larger tires yet. Can I just do the shocks from the Terra Firma 2" kit now with stock, original springs and install the lift springs later?
This is how it looks now. Name:  image_zpsgbcpleqd.jpeg
Views: 1919
Size:  231.8 KB
 
  #2  
Old 03-27-2016, 09:51 PM
Joemamma1954's Avatar
Recovery Vehicle
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,150
Received 178 Likes on 165 Posts
Default

Only problem is, the shocks will not be centered. meaning you can bottom them out(on the compression) and possibly destroy the shock. Just the opposite of installing lift springs but keeping stock shocks, then they bind on the rebound. I learned the hard way.
 
  #3  
Old 03-27-2016, 10:17 PM
Dave03S's Avatar
TReK
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 2,748
Received 503 Likes on 418 Posts
Default

The answer is no. Learned that the hard way too. You don't put any new shocks on warn out springs, stock or +2.

It will feel and ride great for about 10k, then you buy springs and new shocks again.
 
  #4  
Old 03-28-2016, 08:21 AM
Best4x4's Avatar
Super Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Beaumont, TX
Posts: 7,715
Received 2,272 Likes on 1,676 Posts
Default

If you aren't planning on lifting it, then just buy some stock height shocks.

Honestly though when installing a lift removing the shocks is 50% of it (especially on the front). Once the front shocks are removed and the axle is hanging at full drop all you need is the LR bottle jack between the frame and the axle and with just a few pumps you can pull out the coil spring and install a new one (don't go nuts with the jack and of coarse watch the brake lines at all times).

Last 2inch TF Medium lift I did on my Kalahari was right at 1.5hr from start to finish.
 
  #5  
Old 03-28-2016, 01:37 PM
jamieb's Avatar
Winching
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 676
Received 37 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Here's my deal: I want a 2" TF lift and beefier tires, but my existing tires are practically new. At the same time the shocks are worn, and need to be replaced sooner rather than later. So I need the shocks soon, but the lift later.

If I put stock shocks, then to do a lift I need to buy a whole new kit later. So that's $250 now for TF shocks alone and then $500 later for new shocks and new springs for the lift.

On top of that -- to buy a new set of shocks and springs at OEM/stock original height, it's more expensive than a lift kit.

I feel a little stuck LOL
 
  #6  
Old 03-28-2016, 04:53 PM
Best4x4's Avatar
Super Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Beaumont, TX
Posts: 7,715
Received 2,272 Likes on 1,676 Posts
Default

Two choices then, do the lift then and just leave it until the tires wear out or you swap em out and sell your 18's for 16's.

Or leave it 100% alone, let the OEM springs sag (don't look bad now) and leave the shocks until you can do the lift and tires. (I find 2012-2015 Jeep JKU 18 take off tires all the time online cheap 255/70R18's).
 
  #7  
Old 03-28-2016, 05:48 PM
jamieb's Avatar
Winching
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 676
Received 37 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Best4x4
Two choices then, do the lift then and just leave it until the tires wear out or you swap em out and sell your 18's for 16's.

Or leave it 100% alone, let the OEM springs sag (don't look bad now) and leave the shocks until you can do the lift and tires. (I find 2012-2015 Jeep JKU 18 take off tires all the time online cheap 255/70R18's).
Thinking the same. Truck gets light use. 10 minutes each way to work and home. Think for now going to leave as is then re-assess in 2-3 months.
 
  #8  
Old 03-28-2016, 06:40 PM
jamieb's Avatar
Winching
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 676
Received 37 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Ok, just to be sure, it's safe to leave the original springs in place and just swap shocks with new, OEM standard height shocks?
 
  #9  
Old 03-28-2016, 06:54 PM
Dave03S's Avatar
TReK
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 2,748
Received 503 Likes on 418 Posts
Default

It might be technically safe but it would be a waste of your money and the shocks.

As mentioned before your old springs will kill any new shocks as the shocks will be doing their job and the job of the springs too.

I did this before. New Bilsteins on old springs at 130k and the Bilsteins were toast in less than 10k miles. So I had to eat that $300 and then buy new springs and shocks.

Your choices are to 1: Do it anyway and eat the cost of the shocks... 2: Do nothing until you can afford to do it right... 3: Do it right and get new shocks and springs at the same time.
 
  #10  
Old 03-28-2016, 07:09 PM
jamieb's Avatar
Winching
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 676
Received 37 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dave03S
It might be technically safe but it would be a waste of your money and the shocks.

As mentioned before your old springs will kill any new shocks as the shocks will be doing their job and the job of the springs too.

I did this before. New Bilsteins on old springs at 130k and the Bilsteins were toast in less than 10k miles. So I had to eat that $300 and then buy new springs and shocks.

Your choices are to 1: Do it anyway and eat the cost of the shocks... 2: Do nothing until you can afford to do it right... 3: Do it right and get new shocks and springs at the same time.
Dave, here's what's eating me about this scenario. It sounds as if most all Discos settle over time. Mine is a 2002, so I assume it settled. Is every Disco owner expected to change both shocks and springs together? Ok, let's say the answer is yes. I'd expect to see tons of aftermarket springs and shocks, oem/stock height on the market.

I do see $500 kits for 2" lifts, but for stock springs and shocks, it's like $900-1000.

Why no Terra firma $500 kit for stock height if thousands of Disco owners all have sagging springs and worn shocks?
 


Quick Reply: Can I install TF 2" lift shocks without the 2" lift springs?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 AM.