Can I install TF 2" lift shocks without the 2" lift springs?
#11
Those springs ARE NOT in bad shape on JamieB's D2. He actually has room between his tire and the fender!!
When I bought my 02 Kalahari I basically had maybe 2inches between the top of the tire and the fender. It felt like I was getting into a car when I bought it!
Honestly JamieB's looks like the springs are in great shape. Are they like they were when it rolled off the assembly line? No, but those are not sagging dead springs by any means.
If it was my D2 I'd grab the TF 2.0inch Medium lift, install it, and be on the look out for some take off 2012-2016 Jeep Wrangler JK/JKU 255/70R18's (usually can grab all 5 for 500.00 on CL or a Jeep Forum). As 99% of most Jeep buyers immediately remove the OEM stuff for new M/T's and rims. Then sell your current 18inch tires on CL afterwards to regain some of the $$$ back. I had a set of the JK/JKU 255/70R18's on my last 02 D2 with a 2inch lift and it looked great.
When I bought my 02 Kalahari I basically had maybe 2inches between the top of the tire and the fender. It felt like I was getting into a car when I bought it!
Honestly JamieB's looks like the springs are in great shape. Are they like they were when it rolled off the assembly line? No, but those are not sagging dead springs by any means.
If it was my D2 I'd grab the TF 2.0inch Medium lift, install it, and be on the look out for some take off 2012-2016 Jeep Wrangler JK/JKU 255/70R18's (usually can grab all 5 for 500.00 on CL or a Jeep Forum). As 99% of most Jeep buyers immediately remove the OEM stuff for new M/T's and rims. Then sell your current 18inch tires on CL afterwards to regain some of the $$$ back. I had a set of the JK/JKU 255/70R18's on my last 02 D2 with a 2inch lift and it looked great.
Last edited by Best4x4; 03-28-2016 at 08:28 PM.
#12
Those springs ARE NOT in bad shape on JamieB's D2. He actually has room between his tire and the fender!!
When I bought my 02 Kalahari I basically had maybe 2inches between the top of the tire and the fender. It felt like I was getting into a car when I bought it!
Honestly JamieB's looks like the springs are in great shape. Are they like they were when it rolled off the assembly line? No, but those are not sagging dead springs by any means.
If it was my D2 I'd grab the TF 2.0inch Medium lift, install it, and be on the look out for some take off 2012-2016 Jeep Wrangler JK/JKU 255/70R18's (usually can grab all 5 for 500.00 on CL or a Jeep Forum). As 99% of most Jeep buyers immediately remove the OEM stuff for new M/T's and rims. Then sell your current 18inch tires on CL afterwards to regain some of the $$$ back. I had a set of the JK/JKU 255/70R18's on my last 02 D2 with a 2inch lift and it looked great.
When I bought my 02 Kalahari I basically had maybe 2inches between the top of the tire and the fender. It felt like I was getting into a car when I bought it!
Honestly JamieB's looks like the springs are in great shape. Are they like they were when it rolled off the assembly line? No, but those are not sagging dead springs by any means.
If it was my D2 I'd grab the TF 2.0inch Medium lift, install it, and be on the look out for some take off 2012-2016 Jeep Wrangler JK/JKU 255/70R18's (usually can grab all 5 for 500.00 on CL or a Jeep Forum). As 99% of most Jeep buyers immediately remove the OEM stuff for new M/T's and rims. Then sell your current 18inch tires on CL afterwards to regain some of the $$$ back. I had a set of the JK/JKU 255/70R18's on my last 02 D2 with a 2inch lift and it looked great.
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#14
"Is every Disco owner expected to change both shocks and springs together?"
As the old saying goes, your mileage may vary.
I would say the above does apply to high milers and trucks that have been off road.
If you have a mall queen, have never drove over a curb on purpose just because you can, super low miles, etc then yes you could get away with one round of replacing shocks without new springs.
I replaced my rear shocks once before replacing the springs and had no problems. By the time my front shocks were worn out for the first time, my springs were also. Only I didn't realize it. The ride was great at first, then it got bad again in a very short time... At which time I had to bite the bullet and go with the 2" kit listed below.
As a general practice for high mile trucks or if you ever intend to test your vehicles capacity, then you might as well just save yourself the hassle and get the springs and shocks together.
Only you can be the judge of the condition of your original springs, and it is no fun to find out you were wrong, just saying.
And FYI Lucky 8 sells OEM springs for quite a lot less than your quote. Last time I looked they were not listed on line, you have to call and ask but they do have them.
As the old saying goes, your mileage may vary.
I would say the above does apply to high milers and trucks that have been off road.
If you have a mall queen, have never drove over a curb on purpose just because you can, super low miles, etc then yes you could get away with one round of replacing shocks without new springs.
I replaced my rear shocks once before replacing the springs and had no problems. By the time my front shocks were worn out for the first time, my springs were also. Only I didn't realize it. The ride was great at first, then it got bad again in a very short time... At which time I had to bite the bullet and go with the 2" kit listed below.
As a general practice for high mile trucks or if you ever intend to test your vehicles capacity, then you might as well just save yourself the hassle and get the springs and shocks together.
Only you can be the judge of the condition of your original springs, and it is no fun to find out you were wrong, just saying.
And FYI Lucky 8 sells OEM springs for quite a lot less than your quote. Last time I looked they were not listed on line, you have to call and ask but they do have them.
Last edited by Dave03S; 03-28-2016 at 09:11 PM.
#15
I have to ask, why don't they list the stuff online? Not to be sarcastic, but in 2016 who calls a company anymore? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they have the gear but I never would have known if you didn't say something. :-)
I'll give them a call. Thanks.
#16
Opinions please. I did this rough photo edit to estimate what a 2" lift kit would look like on stock tires. I think I actually lifted what I think 3" would look like, assuming some sag. This would be what the truck should look like for a while until I upgrade tires. what do you think? too much lift for these tires and looks funny? look ok?
BEFORE: STOCK height
AFTER: Estimated TRUE 2-inch lift:
AFTER: Estimated look with 2-inch lift + 1 inch for sag = 3-inches up
BEFORE: STOCK height
AFTER: Estimated TRUE 2-inch lift:
AFTER: Estimated look with 2-inch lift + 1 inch for sag = 3-inches up
Last edited by jamieb; 03-29-2016 at 02:19 PM.
#18
I'd do the TF 2.0inch Medium, right after the install say 500 miles or so it will settle once the springs have had the weight of the vehicle on them.
Right after the install my D2 was sitting at close to 2.5-3.0inches, after the springs settled in (not spring sag) The height is right at 2.0-2.5inches, and after the lift I installed the TF Front Bumper, Warn M8000 Winch, TF Front Steering Skid, and finally the all steel rear bumper from AB. My D2 did not sag with the additional weight due to the spring rating.
The ride also softened up which I always laugh when I see people lift their RRC/D90/D1/D2 with a HD or Medium kit and complain about the ride quality on a 100% stock LR. The springs have a rating for a reason..... Spring Height/Spring Rating are not the same thing.
TF makes light duty, medium duty, and heavy duty rated springs. Light duty is for your stock LR. If you're going to add metal bumpers F/R and a winch the medium setup is perfect. If you're going to have a fully loaded rack, winch, bumpers, and gear then get the HD.
Right after the install my D2 was sitting at close to 2.5-3.0inches, after the springs settled in (not spring sag) The height is right at 2.0-2.5inches, and after the lift I installed the TF Front Bumper, Warn M8000 Winch, TF Front Steering Skid, and finally the all steel rear bumper from AB. My D2 did not sag with the additional weight due to the spring rating.
The ride also softened up which I always laugh when I see people lift their RRC/D90/D1/D2 with a HD or Medium kit and complain about the ride quality on a 100% stock LR. The springs have a rating for a reason..... Spring Height/Spring Rating are not the same thing.
TF makes light duty, medium duty, and heavy duty rated springs. Light duty is for your stock LR. If you're going to add metal bumpers F/R and a winch the medium setup is perfect. If you're going to have a fully loaded rack, winch, bumpers, and gear then get the HD.
#19
I'd do the TF 2.0inch Medium, right after the install say 500 miles or so it will settle once the springs have had the weight of the vehicle on them.
TF makes light duty, medium duty, and heavy duty rated springs. Light duty is for your stock LR. If you're going to add metal bumpers F/R and a winch the medium setup is perfect. If you're going to have a fully loaded rack, winch, bumpers, and gear then get the HD.
TF makes light duty, medium duty, and heavy duty rated springs. Light duty is for your stock LR. If you're going to add metal bumpers F/R and a winch the medium setup is perfect. If you're going to have a fully loaded rack, winch, bumpers, and gear then get the HD.
Will tow a popup camper and most of the time, just hauling mountain bikes or kayaks around. Strictly light duty with some light off-roading.
Thinking medium duty myself.
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