Codes p0741 and p0734 - NO Overdrive!
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Hi Everyone,
It's been a while since I've been here but here's my situation. I have a 2004 Disco 2, remaned engine about 17,000 miles ago. Disco is running fine but now will not go into overdrive because of p0741 code of "Torque Converter Clutch, Low Performance, Stuck Off"; and p0734 "Gear 4 Incorrect Ratio."
I've had the transmission drained (which didn't look bad) and refilled twice with Castrol recommended ATF and added Lucas Slip Fix to the mix. I've driven it for the past week and no change. I'm thinking it's the solenoid but can't find a replacement solenoid anywhere. On the p0734 code, some links and threads here are pointing to replacing the MAF sensor.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
It's been a while since I've been here but here's my situation. I have a 2004 Disco 2, remaned engine about 17,000 miles ago. Disco is running fine but now will not go into overdrive because of p0741 code of "Torque Converter Clutch, Low Performance, Stuck Off"; and p0734 "Gear 4 Incorrect Ratio."
I've had the transmission drained (which didn't look bad) and refilled twice with Castrol recommended ATF and added Lucas Slip Fix to the mix. I've driven it for the past week and no change. I'm thinking it's the solenoid but can't find a replacement solenoid anywhere. On the p0734 code, some links and threads here are pointing to replacing the MAF sensor.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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will not go into overdrive because of p0741 code of "Torque Converter Clutch, Low Performance, Stuck Off"; and p0734 "Gear 4 Incorrect Ratio."
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Unplug your MAF and see if the symptoms persist. Better yet, swap the MAF for another (easier said than done).
You should be able to confirm slip rate and confirm converter lockup via scan tool data. This will tell you if (and when) the solenoid is closing and point towards whether or not the TQ Converter / clutch failed. If it did fail make sure you flush the “entire” transmission cooling system (lines, cooler, and internals) before installing new clutches and TQ Converter.
You should be able to confirm slip rate and confirm converter lockup via scan tool data. This will tell you if (and when) the solenoid is closing and point towards whether or not the TQ Converter / clutch failed. If it did fail make sure you flush the “entire” transmission cooling system (lines, cooler, and internals) before installing new clutches and TQ Converter.
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Thanks Number9, I am exploring the forums on the TC and LU, etc. and have already found some good points to follow up. And I think I've found the ZF solenoid that may be the culprit. I will continue and keep the forum posted on progress.
Coors, thank you! I will unplug my MAF and see if it makes a difference. I recently had it cleaned and by reading here, a few posts suggest cleaning is not good for Bosch MAFs. I've ordered a new MAF and we'll see if it makes a difference. I will keep you and the forum posted on progress.
Coors, thank you! I will unplug my MAF and see if it makes a difference. I recently had it cleaned and by reading here, a few posts suggest cleaning is not good for Bosch MAFs. I've ordered a new MAF and we'll see if it makes a difference. I will keep you and the forum posted on progress.
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You may have already found it by searching......2nd half of this manual is good for the D2s....http://rave.stringsandints.com/Land%...n%20System.pdf
About the temp.....the trans fluid temp sensor has noting to do with LU. If coolant temp working it won't prevent LU. Very unlikely unless the TCM tango uniform. Below is from another manual......https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...rqszmyafJEPRwh
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About the temp.....the trans fluid temp sensor has noting to do with LU. If coolant temp working it won't prevent LU. Very unlikely unless the TCM tango uniform. Below is from another manual......https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...rqszmyafJEPRwh
The torque converter can be locked and
unlocked during driving to improve driveability,
fuel consumption and gear changing. The torque
converter will not be locked until the
transmission has calculated that the oil
temperature has reached a predetermined
temperature. This is calculated from the engine
coolant temperature via a software timer within
the TCM, as the transmission itself has no
temperature sensor. The length of this timer
depends on several variables, including the
engine coolant temperature during cranking, but
is approximately:
AT 32 F LU will not occur for 7 minutes.
unlocked during driving to improve driveability,
fuel consumption and gear changing. The torque
converter will not be locked until the
transmission has calculated that the oil
temperature has reached a predetermined
temperature. This is calculated from the engine
coolant temperature via a software timer within
the TCM, as the transmission itself has no
temperature sensor. The length of this timer
depends on several variables, including the
engine coolant temperature during cranking, but
is approximately:
AT 32 F LU will not occur for 7 minutes.
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Thanks Number9 for some clarification. And just to clarify on my part, the "NO Overdrive" is a permanent fact right now. So while I can appreciate your explanation of coolant temps per say, I don't think that's the issue since OD doesn't happen at all. And this all happened kind of sudden. Otherwise, Rover was fine. I just took a 2-hour drive at freeway speeds of 60-70mph and my Overdrive did not kick in. Am I missing something other than MAF test (possible replacement) and replacing the solenoid? I am going to try the "stall test" suggested here.
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