Coolant temps running higher than normal but not overheating?
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I bleed the system by raising the reservoir and filling it until coolant flows from bleeder. Then reseat resevoir and top off, run engine to temp.
T-stat is a 190 OE LR. I opted against the 180 because some noted a drop in MPG.
Coolant is 50/50 prediluted Prestone green coolant which I first switched over to at 60k after head gasket job. No water wetter.
Symptoms occurred prior to any bleeds or fixes. The system had been intact for at least a year with no problems.
T-stat is a 190 OE LR. I opted against the 180 because some noted a drop in MPG.
Coolant is 50/50 prediluted Prestone green coolant which I first switched over to at 60k after head gasket job. No water wetter.
Symptoms occurred prior to any bleeds or fixes. The system had been intact for at least a year with no problems.
I have not heard of the grey genuine 180 t/stat droping mpg. I have fitted this to many Disco's 2 and have not had any one say this. Equally well I have not seen this on mine.
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Since last post I have bled the system 3 times and gotten air out and eliminated water trickle sound under the dash however temps still range from 210-221.
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So as a recap, I had this temp spike out of nowhere after years of my truck running at a range of 190-205 on green 50/50 Prestone and a 192*F thermostat. New range became 205-221. I change in this order and with no difference after each; Coolant temp sensor, 180*F thermostat, new OE radiator and today the viscous fan assembly. It has been bled again and again throughout this and all hoses are intact and new as of last year.
I am pretty certain my condensor fan does not work any longer as it has not come on as my temps hit 212*F, however I think it has been broken for far longer than my temp issue has existed.
My new theory is, please correct me if it sounds crazy, the temps seemed to rise as the air temps in my area began to remain in the teens and low 20's. I put ceramic painted manifolds on several years ago and definitely notice a dramatic decrease in under hood temperatures( no more oven blast to the face even in summer time). Ive noticed my intake air temps are only in the 40's and my engine compartment is quite cool after driving around.
This leads me to believe my engine compartment hasn't been reaching a temperature high enough to engage the fan clutch this leading to my elevated coolant temps especially at idle. I will have to wait until it warms up around here to find out I suppose. I still welcome any other suggestions and I hope this isn't a symptom of a bigger problem. For now I'm going to just ignore it.
I am pretty certain my condensor fan does not work any longer as it has not come on as my temps hit 212*F, however I think it has been broken for far longer than my temp issue has existed.
My new theory is, please correct me if it sounds crazy, the temps seemed to rise as the air temps in my area began to remain in the teens and low 20's. I put ceramic painted manifolds on several years ago and definitely notice a dramatic decrease in under hood temperatures( no more oven blast to the face even in summer time). Ive noticed my intake air temps are only in the 40's and my engine compartment is quite cool after driving around.
This leads me to believe my engine compartment hasn't been reaching a temperature high enough to engage the fan clutch this leading to my elevated coolant temps especially at idle. I will have to wait until it warms up around here to find out I suppose. I still welcome any other suggestions and I hope this isn't a symptom of a bigger problem. For now I'm going to just ignore it.
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So I haven't been able to ignore my temps, still running 204.8-210 on the road and idling at 221-230. I've done radiator, coolant temp sensor, viscous fan works properly, condensor fan works when it's supposed to, 180 tstat, water wetter, coolant resevoir cap the proper 1.4 bar stant one, multiple bleeds the proper way and exhaust gas in coolant test multiple times all with no results.
So tonight I idled it up to 230f and used a thermal imager camera to shoot temps around the engine.
My results are;
Upper radiator hoses and thermostat 170-180
Heated core lines 227-230 in and out
Coolant temp sensor in the valley 227-230
Coolant resevoir 206-210
Oil pan 160
Heater and condensor fan have no effect on temps whether on or off.
I have no measurable coolant loss and with no exhaust gasses in the coolant detected I thought I could rule out cracked block and head gaskets. My oil and coolant do not appear to be mixing either.
Any other suggestions from anyone what could conceivably cause this much heat and not give me any real diagnostic clues?
So tonight I idled it up to 230f and used a thermal imager camera to shoot temps around the engine.
My results are;
Upper radiator hoses and thermostat 170-180
Heated core lines 227-230 in and out
Coolant temp sensor in the valley 227-230
Coolant resevoir 206-210
Oil pan 160
Heater and condensor fan have no effect on temps whether on or off.
I have no measurable coolant loss and with no exhaust gasses in the coolant detected I thought I could rule out cracked block and head gaskets. My oil and coolant do not appear to be mixing either.
Any other suggestions from anyone what could conceivably cause this much heat and not give me any real diagnostic clues?