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First long trip after all the cooling stuff completed.
As always, most appreciative of the assistance, especially the time that went into the ideas when I was trying to troubleshoot the last one.
I figured I would share the data from the trip, but to me, it all looks OK, and is cooler than when I started so I'm happy. I still think it runs a few degrees above where most of yours run at, but I'm just guessing it is what it is at this point. Took a trip from near NYC to Philly yesterday and today. Highway driving (65-80MPH): 208-212 degrees Back road driving (35-45MPH): 215-221 Stop and go/city/traffic (idle-25MPH): 221-227 It seems like everything is in working order. When I accelerate during any of the conditions above, the temp drops a few degrees due to a higher flow rate. I will admit I was a slave to the Ultra Gauge the entire time, but I now just have to learn to not worry (alarm set). I would like it to run a touch cooler, but the entire system is new so I think I'm good. I might change out the temp sensor for the heck of it, but I think it is all good. How do those numbers sound to you? Also, the HD fan clutch seems to work. Really takes some power away from the truck though. The fan seems to be very loud much more often, even when the truck is cold in the morning. One on the highway and airflow is good it is much quieter as I assume it is no longer coupled, and power is back to normal. |
So, you are way to high. What have you done to improve this? Have you replaced the t/stat, what coolant are you running, are you using Water Wetter, is your electric fan working, have you replaced your viscus clutch yet and has the radiator been replaced yet?????
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As I recall, everything Mike mentioned has been done (rad, viscous clutch, electric fan comes on, stat), but the new stat was bad outta box, so the old one went back. Old one could be a big part of this. But if the coolant temp sender was out of kilter, it could also make reading high. I would wonder if water entering coolant reserve tank, since it circulates directly from the throttle body heater, might be a place to test with an IR thermometer, as well as other various spots. If the coolant sensor is telling the ultra gauge it is 230 F, and temp of upper hose is 190... might be the sensor. To replace the coolant sensor is less work than the thermostat for sure, but may not be the problem.
Could test coolant sensor by removing, leave hooked up to truck, switch on position 2, don't crank, Ultra Gauge will show stat temp. Dunk in hot water in coffee cup measured by another thermometer. Sensor easier to change than stat. But stat could certainly be bad. Don't suspect water pump, but don't know if you spent a gasket and inspected it. Don't suspect cracked block (no heat spikes) or head gasket (no waterfall, white smoke, coolant loss). |
Yes Mike, as Buzz said it is all done. I will give you the Cliff's Notes.
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How about your coolant pressure cap, has it been replaced yet, they tend to fail because of the Dexcool. Any coolant lose, does the system seem to have too much pressure on the hoses?
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Originally Posted by Disco Mike
(Post 286149)
How about your coolant pressure cap, has it been replaced yet, they tend to fail because of the Dexcool. Any coolant lose, does the system seem to have too much pressure on the hoses?
I'm looking for the one "Ah-ha" thing that it could be I'm overlooking. Maybe it is just the temp sensor sending too high a reading back, but being there have never been issues with hot or cold starting, I'm not sure. For a few bucks, I will likely try that. Only issue I see (and it is very minor) is a slight oil leak by the front crank seal (like one drop a day). I also need a new rubber air intake boot, but again, nothing that connects the dots here. |
Possible things:
1. Old stat (age does not matter to Murphy's Law) 2. Engine coolant temp sensor - if this is correct, that means you are boiling at idle. So to test that theory, for very low price, allow dealer to remove coolant cap for today's special holiday rate of $478 (lol). Or you can take it off, idle truck, watch Ultra Gauge, if it gets to 212, 220, etc.; then the coolant tank should have plenty of bubbling steam. Careful, of course. But if gauge reads high, and you are not boiling, sensor is suspect. You could also use an infrared thermometer to check a few points. You could also remove the coolant temp sensor, plunk it in hot water - measured with another thermometer, and see what ultra gauge reads (truck not running). 3. Heater core could be restricted, not blocked. If water slowly flows thru heater core, that could impact how much water passes thru sampling holes in the thermostat. When rad was out, did you happen to flush heater core with a hose? Heater core can be removed from the system with a bypass hose arrangment. 4. Coolant that passes thru throttle plate heater returns to water pump via the large hose from the bottom of the coolant container. Hose should not be kinked or twisted. |
I might go grab a temp sensor from Advanced tomorrow and give it a whirl. Looks like most of the big stores carry one that fits the Disco.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Coolant-Temperature-Sensor-BWD-Intermotor_19970213-P_290_R|GRPSENSAMS_____ As far as removing it, any special tools or tips and tricks for that one? By looking at it I'm not sure if I will need a special tool or not, maybe just a deep socket? |
Deep well socket will not work because of the fuel rail. 7/8" open end wrench works, provided you have removed enough in front to get access.
*yes, it's Friday night, I've had a few beers, and have nothing better to do than go in the garage and see what fits my junk engine I will eventually part out. :) |
Originally Posted by lordmorpheus
(Post 286187)
Deep well socket will not work because of the fuel rail. 7/8" open end wrench works, provided you have removed enough in front to get access.
*yes, it's Friday night, I've had a few beers, and have nothing better to do than go in the garage and see what fits my junk engine I will eventually part out. :) |
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