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TRIARII 11-20-2012 03:01 AM

Grinding metal and hesitation when reversing
 
It's already been noted that I need new pads, but lately after driving around and listening more closely, it may be more severe than just break pads. As stated above I'm hearing some metal to metal grinding when I step on the break pedal, and when I'm driving around at really low speeds. BUT as of this past Saturday I noticed that when I put the truck in reverse the metal to metal grinding gets noticeably louder and their is irregular hesitation in reversing. Seems to require more pressure on the gas pedal than normal to reverse the truck.

Yes I KNOW I NEED TO SERVICE THE BREAKS. I'm buying cheap lockeed pads/rotors this Friday as a temporary measure until I can afford the high performance rotors to compliment my new (still in box) AKEBONO pads.

But before I remove the wheels and inspect the system and start the work I need to know if the issues described above are all linked to faulty pads and rotors.... or something worse like the driveshafts or the transfer case? Any input greatly appreciated. Has anyone else experienced these issues?

coors 11-20-2012 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by TRIARII (Post 358307)
It's already been noted that I need new pads, but lately after driving around and listening more closely, it may be more severe than just break pads. As stated above I'm hearing some metal to metal grinding when I step on the break pedal, and when I'm driving around at really low speeds. BUT as of this past Saturday I noticed that when I put the truck in reverse the metal to metal grinding gets noticeably louder and their is irregular hesitation in reversing. Seems to require more pressure on the gas pedal than normal to reverse the truck.

Yes I KNOW I NEED TO SERVICE THE BREAKS. I'm buying cheap lockeed pads/rotors this Friday as a temporary measure until I can afford the high performance rotors to compliment my new (still in box) AKEBONO pads.

But before I remove the wheels and inspect the system and start the work I need to know if the issues described above are all linked to faulty pads and rotors.... or something worse like the driveshafts or the transfer case? Any input greatly appreciated. Has anyone else experienced these issues?

It's hard to say for sure whether or not the pads/rotors are the culprit. I suggest pulling the wheels and start by inspecting the pads, rotors, and hub assembly. Sounds like something is binding up. Raise all four wheels and have someone put it in gear to get the wheels moving then apply the brakes. It should be obvious. If you do not hear the noise, don't get discouraged it may need to have a load applied for it to start acting up again.

Whats the status of your front propshaft? Is it factory non-greasable? Has it been replaced w/ a greaseable solution? If the latter, have you been greasing it on the regular?

ZGPhoto 11-20-2012 08:03 AM

Sounds like brake rotors as well.

TRIARII 11-20-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by coors (Post 358333)
It's hard to say for sure whether or not the pads/rotors are the culprit. I suggest pulling the wheels and start by inspecting the pads, rotors, and hub assembly. Sounds like something is binding up. Raise all four wheels and have someone put it in gear to get the wheels moving then apply the brakes. It should be obvious. If you do not hear the noise, don't get discouraged it may need to have a load applied for it to start acting up again.

Whats the status of your front propshaft? Is it factory non-greasable? Has it been replaced w/ a greaseable solution? If the latter, have you been greasing it on the regular?


I'm still using the stock front shaft for the moment. I'm aware of the issues with them not being fully greaseable and the potential for creating a hole in the transfer case. I inspected the shaft and its firm in place with no visible damages yet, and Ive been paying close attention for potential noises or vibrations when traveling at 70 MPH - I will replace the shaft soon.

Regarding the breaks. I recall a similar experience back when I owned my 98 D1. One of the caliper bolts broke on the front passenger side, causing one end of the caliper to slip off the rotor and scrap against the wheel, made similar noises and vibrations while reversing.

TRIARII 11-20-2012 12:45 PM

Although I do not believe it to be the propshaft, my concern at the moment is that maybe the entire wheel hub **** the bed.... but its also very possible that I just need to replace the pads and rotors. Again I'm buying a cheap lockeed kit this weekend and will be doing the work myself. Unfortunately I dont have a lift so gotta figure out the best way to get the truck off the ground so I can inspect the noises.

ZGPhoto 11-20-2012 12:53 PM

After a long drive put your hand near the wheel, if it's hot you probably have a seized caliper.

TRIARII 11-20-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by ZGPhoto (Post 358389)
After a long drive put your hand near the wheel, if it's hot you probably have a seized caliper.

are we talking about radiating heat? and if the caliper was seized that means gotta replace them right?

ZGPhoto 11-20-2012 01:14 PM

Yeah but you can find replacement ones relatively cheap. And yes, I'm talking about radiating heat near the wheel. After a long enough drive you'll be able to tell.

TRIARII 11-20-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by ZGPhoto (Post 358398)
Yeah but you can find replacement ones relatively cheap. And yes, I'm talking about radiating heat near the wheel. After a long enough drive you'll be able to tell.

Alright I'll keep an eye on the wheels, thanks for the tip. Regarding replacement of rotors and pads, a break fluid flush is not required correct? Since I'm not actually disconnecting the calipers.

ZGPhoto 11-20-2012 01:58 PM

I didn't do a flush when I changed mine


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