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Old 07-04-2014, 09:04 AM
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Do they ever make presence on forums? At least, lurking?
Or they have prohibition from the corporation to put their spoons in our plate ?
Zero collaboration/knowledge sharing from them ?
Are they that much proud of themselves ?

I have something for them. Make the coolant thermometer accurate, with a scale on it, and add a couple of lines to the ECU program, to chime-announce the temperature reaching dangerous level, before the red light shows.
The chime sounds with less important events, why leave the audible warning for overtemperature out of functionality.
(No, I have zero overheating problems now)
 
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:20 AM
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Yeah right like they could figure out the internet
I have my suspicions about the accuracy of my thermostat itself. Not so much the 150-250 centerline in the gauge normal range, but the sender and reading.
Doing some experimenting, I have two separate mechanical thermostats on my truck at the moment. Neither the one pre-radiator or the one post radiator are at the temperature of my scan gauge. Both show lower.
A chime would be logical, though.
 
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Yeah right like they could figure out the internet
I have my suspicions about the accuracy of my thermostat itself. Not so much the 150-250 centerline in the gauge normal range, but the sender and reading.
Doing some experimenting, I have two separate mechanical thermostats on my truck at the moment. Neither the one pre-radiator or the one post radiator are at the temperature of my scan gauge. Both show lower.
A chime would be logical, though.
I have fitted an indy bright blue digital plasma temp gauge and separate coolant sender to the pajero which is hooked up to an audible alarm when the temp gauge hits it's alarm red light at 100C. Problem with the 4M40 diesel pajero engine is that when it goes into the red zone on the stock temp gauge (if you ever notice it hidden behind the steering wheel) the engine is toast by then and the head's cracked and you've got a $1000 DIY bill coming your way. I'm one head down to date cos I never noticed the stock temp gauge hence all the mods.

It's a bit like the rover V8 engine.

You've gotta wear 'belt and braces' with all these engines or the bills mount up and keep coming.
 
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Originally Posted by Externet
Do they ever make presence on forums? At least, lurking?
Or they have prohibition from the corporation to put their spoons in our plate ?
Zero collaboration/knowledge sharing from them ?
Are they that much proud of themselves ?

I have something for them. Make the coolant thermometer accurate, with a scale on it, and add a couple of lines to the ECU program, to chime-announce the temperature reaching dangerous level, before the red light shows.
The chime sounds with less important events, why leave the audible warning for overtemperature out of functionality.
(No, I have zero overheating problems now)
It's very rare any factory engineer or dealership mechanic will ever stick their head above the parapet. To them it's too risky as most vehicles are designed down to a price/profit including their parts supplier quality assurance checks. You, the customers, are their best development engineers. The motto is you pay and they ignore you.
 
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:09 PM
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Hopefully the factory engineers (and I don't care what brand of auto) will have to work on the POS designs in hell for eternity.

I learned to wrench on cars in the 60's when you could actually get to something.
 
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Old 07-05-2014, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jhmover
Hopefully the factory engineers (and I don't care what brand of auto) will have to work on the POS designs in hell for eternity.

I learned to wrench on cars in the 60's when you could actually get to something.
You can actually thank our Politicians for that...

As for Visible and Audible warning, my UltraGauge does exactly that for just a few bucks.
 
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I've read on here a lot about many of you guys fitting the Ultragauge which seems to serve as a intant real time readout data scanner, but correct me if I'm wrong. My question is whether the Ultragauge is suitable for the TD5 D2 as the only fundamental difference is the engine. What does Ultragauge really give you in the way of real time usable data and alarms. I know SuperSport is a bit of a 'techie' and has used an Ultragauge for some time as does Savannah Buzz. Your comments and help would be invaluable.
 
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OffroadFrance
I've read on here a lot about many of you guys fitting the Ultragauge which seems to serve as a intant real time readout data scanner, but correct me if I'm wrong. My question is whether the Ultragauge is suitable for the TD5 D2 as the only fundamental difference is the engine. What does Ultragauge really give you in the way of real time usable data and alarms. I know SuperSport is a bit of a 'techie' and has used an Ultragauge for some time as does Savannah Buzz. Your comments and help would be invaluable.
According to the Ultra-Gauge.com website, here are the gauges available on the Scanner. On MY DII, I only get 48 of them, but I don't know exactly which ones I've got. I'll go out this morning and make a video or something to show.

As far as which ones you might get on your Diesel, I have no idea, but I'm sure if you contacted www.Ultra-Gauge.com, they would probably have an idea for you.

I'll get back to you with what mine has in a bit.

www.Ultra-Gauge.com
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UltraGauge EM can display 76+ possible gauges*.  Gauge selection is completely
customizable.  The actually gauges available are vehicle dependent.
If your vehicle supports any of the gauges listed, then the gauge
will be available for display by UltraGauge.

UltraGauge currently does not support Manufacturer specific gauges such
as Transmission temperature.

Gauge
% Engine Load
Engine Coolant Temperature (ºF)
Engine Coolant Temperature (ºC)
Short Term Fuel Trim Bank 1
Long Term Fuel Trim Bank 1
Short Term Fuel Trim Bank 2
Long Term Fuel Trim Bank 2
Fuel Pressure (PSI)
Fuel Pressure (kPa)
Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP)(PSI)
Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP)(kPa)
RPM
MPH
KPH
Timing Advance
Intake Air Temperature (ºF)
Intake Air Temperature (ºC)
Mass Air Flow Sensor 1 (g/s)
Absolute Throttle Position 1 %
Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 1 Voltage***
Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 2 Voltage***
Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 1 Voltage***
Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 2 Voltage***
Run time since last start (hours:mins)
Miles traveled with Check Engine Light On.
Kilometers traveled with Check Engine Light On.
Fuel Pressure (Diesel & Direct Injection) (PSI)
Fuel Pressure (Diesel & Direct Injection) (10kPa)
 
Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda (voltage based)***
Bank 1 Wide Oxygen Sensor 2 Lambda (voltage based)(UG Plus only)***
Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda (voltage based)***
Bank 2 Wide Oxygen Sensor 2 Lambda (voltage based)(UG Plus only)***
 
Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda (current based)(UG Plus only)***
Bank 1 Wide Oxygen Sensor 2 Lambda (current based)(UG Plus only)***
Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda (current based)(UG Plus only)***
Bank 2 Wide Oxygen Sensor 2 Lambda (current based)(UG Plus only)***
 
EGR Flow %
EGR Flow % Error
Evaporative Purge %
Fuel Level % of full
Number of Warm-ups since Check Engine Light Cleared
Miles traveled since Check Engine Light Cleared
Kilometers traveled since Check Engine Light Cleared
Evaporative System (PSI)
Evaporative System (Pa)
Barometric Pressure – Inches of Mercury (inHg)
Barometric Pressure – Inches of Mercury (kPa)
Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 1 Temperature (ºF)
Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 1 Temperature (ºC)
Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 1 Temperature (ºF)
Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 1 Temperature (ºC)
Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 2 Temperature (ºF)
Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 2 Temperature (ºC)
Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 2 Temperature (ºF)
Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 2 Temperature (ºC)
Battery Voltage (Measured by ECM)
UltraGauge Battery Voltage (Measured by UG)
Load absolute %
AFR Commanded Ratio
Relative Throttle Position %
Outside Ambient Air Temperature (ºF)
Outside Ambient Air Temperature (ºC)
Absolute Throttle Position 2 %
Accelerator Pedal Position 1 %
Accelerator Pedal Position 2 %
Command Throttle Position %
Boost Pressure,  (Relative Pressure) (PSI)
Boost Pressure,  (Relative Pressure) (kPa)
Brake Horsepower 1
Brake Kilowatts 1
Torque 1 (ft lbs)
Torque 1 (N.m)
Brake Horsepower 2
Brake Kilowatts 2
Torque 2 (ft lbs)
Torque 2 (N.m)
Mass Air Flow Sensor 2 (g/s)– Calculated
Instantaneous MPG
Instantaneous KPL
Instantaneous L/100Km
Average MPG – General
Average KPL – General
Average L/100Km – General
Average MPH – General
Average KPH – General
Run Time – General
Miles – General (miles)
Kilometers – General (miles)
Fuel Used – General (gallons)
Fuel Used – General (liters)
Average Gallons/Hour - General
Average Liters/Hour - General
Fuel Level (gallons)
Fuel Level (liters)
Instantaneous Gallons/hour
Instantaneous Liters/hour
Distance to Empty (miles)
Distance to Empty (kilometers)
Time to Empty
Volumetric Efficiency (MAP vehicles only)
 
 
General Trip Gauges
Average MPG
Fuel Used
Average Gallons/hour
Average MPH
Distance (miles)
Run Time
 
Average KPH
Average KPL
Average L/100Km
Liters Used
Average Liters/Hour
Distance (kilometers)
 
 
Short Trip Gauges**
Average MPG
Fuel Used
Average Gallons/hour
Average MPH
Distance (miles)
Run Time
 
Average KPH
Average KPL
Average L/100Km
Liters Used
Average Liters/Hour
Distance (kilometers)
 
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:13 PM
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Here is a photo of what I have showing when I drive (I show MPH because of over-sized tires. I calibrated the UG to be accurate.):



Here is a Video showing all the monitors available on MY '03 DII GAS:

 
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