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karover 05-26-2010 04:25 PM

Need help, negative battery cable
 
Hi, I own a 2003 Disco, I went off-roading the other day and I noticed that my battery negative cable had come unfasten, now there is a short on my hand brake cable bolt when I try to turn the ignition and the battery seems weak. Where does the cable bolts to? any help would be appreciated.

karover:confused:

Danny Lee 97 Disco 05-26-2010 06:48 PM

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I have a 97 DI, so mine may be slightly different. However, look inside the passenger side wheel well area, pull that wheel for improved access. I did.

My battery cable connection to the frame was severely corroded as well as an old battery and corroded negative starter connection. I replaced battery, cut the old negative cable, purchased a new 4 foot one from Pep Boys for a round 10 bucks.

I put a large deburring bit in my power drill and abraded an area of the frame down to bare metal. Drilled a pilot hole and installed the new cable with a self-drilling bolt from Lowe's. Problem solved. Cranks right up now with new grounds for battery and starter. Coated the area with brake caliper grease or never-seize, I don't remember which. Pics below are the starter connection I redid. Battery connection is slightly forward in the same area. The extra legth allowed me to improve the routing of the cable.

Good luck.

antichrist 05-27-2010 07:58 AM

There are two connections. The cable from the battery attaches to the chassis side rail about a foot or so back from the front end. About 10" from the battery a smaller cable runs off the larger one and attaches to the inner wing.
I make my own cables and usually replace whats there whenever I buy a Rover as they are usually very poorly maintained.
I use quality welding cable (more flexible and easier to route), seal the ends of the terminals with moisture seal heat shrink tubing and use mil-spec battery clamps.
The '97 I just bought I ran a separate smaller ground from the battery to the body.
Then I run the new starter ground from the starter to the same bolt used for the battery ground. On the ground points I use bronze star washers to ensure a good contact.

karover 05-27-2010 03:50 PM

need help, negative battery cable
 

Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco (Post 179680)
I have a 97 DI, so mine may be slightly different. However, look inside the passenger side wheel well area, pull that wheel for improved access. I did.

My battery cable connection to the frame was severely corroded as well as an old battery and corroded negative starter connection. I replaced battery, cut the old negative cable, purchased a new 4 foot one from Pep Boys for a round 10 bucks.

I put a large deburring bit in my power drill and abraded an area of the frame down to bare metal. Drilled a pilot hole and installed the new cable with a self-drilling bolt from Lowe's. Problem solved. Cranks right up now with new grounds for battery and starter. Coated the area with brake caliper grease or never-seize, I don't remember which. Pics below are the starter connection I redid. Battery connection is slightly forward in the same area. The extra legth allowed me to improve the routing of the cable.

Good luck.

Thanks Danny for your help and advise:)

vandev 05-27-2010 03:56 PM

cool
 

Originally Posted by antichrist (Post 179762)
There are two connections. The cable from the battery attaches to the chassis side rail about a foot or so back from the front end. About 10" from the battery a smaller cable runs off the larger one and attaches to the inner wing.
I make my own cables and usually replace whats there whenever I buy a Rover as they are usually very poorly maintained.
I use quality welding cable (more flexible and easier to route), seal the ends of the terminals with moisture seal heat shrink tubing and use mil-spec battery clamps.
The '97 I just bought I ran a separate smaller ground from the battery to the body.
Then I run the new starter ground from the starter to the same bolt used for the battery ground. On the ground points I use bronze star washers to ensure a good contact.

Hey tom, I would be intrested in a picture or two of your setup as well as wire speck and connectors. My daughters is having a mystery power leak somewhere and like you said, another weak link in this system.

Thanks Chris

Danny Lee 97 Disco 05-27-2010 10:06 PM

You are welcome. When I redid mine I ignored the smaller ground wire going to the body/inner wing... I don't know if that matters, it does not seem to have affected anything so far.

As I work on mine I try to be attentive to whatever ground connections I happen to come upon. Most of them are not in the best of shape, when I find one like that I go ahead and clean it up or redo it completely. Abrading the coating on the frame for the new ground point is also important for a good solid connection.

antichrist 05-28-2010 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by vandev (Post 179823)
Hey tom, I would be intrested in a picture or two of your setup as well as wire speck and connectors.

I'll see if I can get some this weekend.
However, corroded cables won't cause a drain. They cause a reduction of power to things. For instance, after replacing the starter and ground cables on the '97 I recently bought it cranks a lot better.


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