Can/Bus no communication issue
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Can/Bus no communication issue
I’m at a loss, this is what my 05 lr3 4.4 is doing every time I try to start it. When I turn the key I get nothing, no click, no hesitation, no nothing except all these lights. I try to run the codes and it says “no communication to ecm/pcm A” it’s been to the dealer and they couldn’t figure it out, I replaced the TCCM, the brake switch, it’s got a new battery that tested good, repaired a bunch of corroded wires in both floor rails, replaced the ECM, replaced every fuse and relay, replaced the brake light bulbs just in case, and even checked the plug in the left rear wheel well. Is there something I’m just not seeing. Any help would be appreciated !!!!!
upon further testing I have found an oddity the “high can” is measuring 40ohms while asleep and I thought it should read 60 when normal and 120 if there is a bad resistor, instead it is measuring as if there is an extra resistor???? Also while ignition is on I am getting 2.4v out of the 6pin and 2.2v out of the 14pin on the OBD port when I thought I was supposed to get 2.7 out of 6pin and 2.4 out of 14pin would this cause the loss of communication????
upon further testing I have found an oddity the “high can” is measuring 40ohms while asleep and I thought it should read 60 when normal and 120 if there is a bad resistor, instead it is measuring as if there is an extra resistor???? Also while ignition is on I am getting 2.4v out of the 6pin and 2.2v out of the 14pin on the OBD port when I thought I was supposed to get 2.7 out of 6pin and 2.4 out of 14pin would this cause the loss of communication????
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The voltages you are getting on the can buss indicates it is shorted. You are correct, if all is good it should be 60 ohms as you read 40 ohms that indicates a problem also. The resistors reside in two places - firstly on the instrument panel and the other end is on the ABS module. If you disconnect the plug to the ABS module you should read 120 ohms.
Here is a diagram showing pin connections - having problems attaching files
Here is a diagram showing pin connections - having problems attaching files
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OwlRover (09-01-2020)
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Thank you, I truly appreciate that diagram and will check again with the abs module disconnected. The part that concerns me is that it seems as if I’m getting extra resistance somewhere as I’m reading 40ohms that tells me that there are three resistance points all at around 120 ohms. It makes sense to loose a resistor and jump to the reading of 120 from 60 but to gain a resistor and jump from 60 to 40 is confusing me to say the least.
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Thank you, I truly appreciate that diagram and will check again with the abs module disconnected. The part that concerns me is that it seems as if I’m getting extra resistance somewhere as I’m reading 40ohms that tells me that there are three resistance points all at around 120 ohms. It makes sense to loose a resistor and jump to the reading of 120 from 60 but to gain a resistor and jump from 60 to 40 is confusing me to say the least.
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Ok, so after digging through endless amounts of wiring and constantly checking my 6/14 pins for correct voltage and ohm readings as I disconnected what feels like every plug/fuse/relay/sensor/and computer I think I found it !!!!!!
When I disconnected the gauge cluster itself my ohms are at 60 where they should be and my volts are at 2.7 and 2.3. I’m assuming this means that the cluster was the culprit and should fix the problem by replacing it. The other thing that happened when I disconnected the cluster is that when I put the ignition in the on position my locks all cycled and the hazards came on which didn’t happen while checking everything else.
I just want to know if this sounds correct Before I spend the $850 on a new cluster ????
When I disconnected the gauge cluster itself my ohms are at 60 where they should be and my volts are at 2.7 and 2.3. I’m assuming this means that the cluster was the culprit and should fix the problem by replacing it. The other thing that happened when I disconnected the cluster is that when I put the ignition in the on position my locks all cycled and the hazards came on which didn’t happen while checking everything else.
I just want to know if this sounds correct Before I spend the $850 on a new cluster ????
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