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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Arrow Towing cars with the D2 + Offroading.. Suspension advice

I do a lot of towing with my 1500lbs car trailer + a vehicle on the back of my D2 with regular oem springs. I also go off road frequently and would like to lift it very soon.
I would like to get an answer to my question from someone with some experience with towing with a Rover or someone who has run into someone towing heavy things like vehicles with their D2/D1.

My Questions is What's the best route as far as suspension upgrades go for the D2 when it comes to towing + offroading, since this thing is used for multiple purposes. When offroading, I would like a bit more lift (3"), and for towing I don't want the back of my truck to squat, which gets dangerous at high speeds.


1) Should I get air suspension/ get another D2 that comes with it and what should I do to make it have a 3" lift and be off road ready?

2) If I go the 3" springs + shocks route, should I get HD springs front + back? Just Back? ..How would this affect the off road driving/ on road??



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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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You need a old man emu expedition duty system. I would think since you do towing that you should have them front and back. However just the back sags, right? So if you beef up the rear suspension you may be good to go, Obviously you don't want a 3'' lift in the back and stock front! That would just look like a retarded drunk rover!!! lol I would not go with a air suspension to many problems and if the air bag gets poped, leaks, its just a problem. Riding around on bump-stops will NOT be fun especially when you are towing another car.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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lol I didn't mean only 3" springs in back. That would look funny lol. I meant what would happen to performance on road as well as regular on road driving if I got HD 3" springs in the rear and lightweight 3" springs in the front??
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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I thought you were implying that! My bad. Do a search on here: I believe you will have to adjust your drive shaft angles. You will have to get a new drive shaft I know that.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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The two tasks aren't really compatible. Get a long-wheelbase pickup truck to tow, and set your Land Rover up for offroad. If you try to do both, you will have a bad compromise.

My experience: I have a 3" lift on my Discovery and I have a long wheel base pickup truck. The pickup is comfortable towing 20,000 pounds. The Land Rover is great offroad and I would be willing to tow a 1500 pound offroad trailer but not on the highway. The stock height Discovery is better for towing than a lifted one, but even then I'd only tow like 4000 pounds with it. The short wheelbase is squirrely and the brakes suck.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nevada ben
The two tasks aren't really compatible. Get a long-wheelbase pickup truck to tow, and set your Land Rover up for offroad. If you try to do both, you will have a bad compromise.

My experience: I have a 3" lift on my Discovery and I have a long wheel base pickup truck. The pickup is comfortable towing 20,000 pounds. The Land Rover is great offroad and I would be willing to tow a 1500 pound offroad trailer but not on the highway. The stock height Discovery is better for towing than a lifted one, but even then I'd only tow like 4000 pounds with it. The short wheelbase is squirrely and the brakes suck.
Your right. But if you don't have the money for that.....
I would totally invest in trailer breaks.......................... and control unit for your disco. BECAUSE its a monster trying to stop when pulling a 3400 lb trailer and attempting to stop... ---- learned the hard way once............... and only once.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by atancreti
Your right. But if you don't have the money for that.....
I would totally invest in trailer breaks.......................... and control unit for your disco. BECAUSE its a monster trying to stop when pulling a 3400 lb trailer and attempting to stop... ---- learned the hard way once............... and only once.
The D1 is horrible to tow with. I hated towing with it. The D2 is so much better and barely ever sways even without the ACE system like in then promo of it towing a defender.

I'm not buying another truck to just tow. Of course if I had the money I would but with a soon to be offroad rig and another car I drive for the summer, I can't afford a tow truck, so that's why I bought a D2 so it can cover both my needs.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nevada ben
The two tasks aren't really compatible. Get a long-wheelbase pickup truck to tow, and set your Land Rover up for offroad. If you try to do both, you will have a bad compromise.

My experience: I have a 3" lift on my Discovery and I have a long wheel base pickup truck. The pickup is comfortable towing 20,000 pounds. The Land Rover is great offroad and I would be willing to tow a 1500 pound offroad trailer but not on the highway. The stock height Discovery is better for towing than a lifted one, but even then I'd only tow like 4000 pounds with it. The short wheelbase is squirrely and the brakes suck.
You wouldn't pull a 1,500 pound trailer on the highway with it? Perhaps the issue here is with the driver, not the vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 01:30 AM
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I pull a 4,000 lb (loaded) 24' travel trailer with elec. brakes with my D2. While I would agree a longer wheel base truck would be better, I do not pull it a lot, and I do understand that the short wheel base of the D2 causes me to have to be careful. D2 brakes suck! A truck is in my future plans, but the D2 is the tow vehicle for now. I use a wt. distribution hitch on my stock suspension, and it pulls OK and is level. You can tell the trailer is back there, and it is slow up hills. D2 brakes suck, good trailer brakes are a must!

I am looking to add a small 1.5"-2" lift and will probably be going with OME HD springs (not expedition) in the rear to help with my other two trailers, 1,800 lb boat and a utility trailer that gets loaded with dirt, gravels, etc. and the weight of my new steel rear bumper. The bumper with these trailers causes the back to sag a little on the orig factory tired suspension. Before the steel rear bumper these lighter trailers did not cause the back end to sag.

So hoping to help when towing these two trailers and support the weight of my rear bumper, and get more support for my towing setup for the larger travel trailer as well. Will go with medium OME springs on the front with only added weight there of the factory A-bar.
 

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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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In regards to towing with a D1 discovery I own. It is not rated to tow say a car trailer and another discovery or range rover. Has anyone tried this though with a D1? I want to get a project truck Range rover that is inoperable. Any advice ? Or should this not be attempted at all?
 
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