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My truck was probably the perfect candidate....not tuned, years of grime, needing new electrics, dry valves and cylinders....little ticks and noises. I used it to help whatever it could now and buy me some time to get to the root of problems if necessary.
.found it as I was trying to get my head around Mike's "fuel additive" bit on the 60K list.
..but I'm really liking it. I'm not a snake oil guy and am always very skeptical but I think this stuff works great. more pep and fluid feeling with the pedal. sounds better.
...didn't stop my roof leaks or cranky transmission/differential/brakes but hey.
thing is it says on the bottle that if I use this regularly I don't need to use higher octane gas. what's with that????? Says to use this or follow with regular Lucas fuel treatment.
...and sava i don't get you on the hydraulic fluid bit. are you saying this ingredient is what I'm feeling? i never get how they put all the crap in the same bottle and it goes to its part and does the work it needs to do.
1. 3.78 liters per gallon, and premium near me can be had in the $3.75 range.
2. I'm not saying don't use it, I'm just saying that many times the magic ingredient is revealed by looking up info on the MSDS form. Some popular additives are basically kerosene and naptha, etc. If it solvents gunk out of injectors and makes the engine run good, it's good. You paobably have a better chance with a commercially made and bottled product, as opposed to pouring in your own in bulk. Their lawyers have examined how large a container represents the risk for someone to use it all at one time, etc.
3. Solvent is solvent. Properlly used , good. Improper, bad. Carb cleaner will clean an IACV. It will also mess up paint or shiny plastic. That doesn't make it an in-effective product. Just one that needs care in use.
4. Lots of owners will say you never need additives if you run premium quality gas. Perhaps so, but what about the previous owner who didn't? A little solvent cleans things up, brings them back to normal standard. Too much, and seals, plastic fuel pump parts, etc., begin to fail.
Most will tell you I am a BIG lucas promoter, that being said, Lucas gas additive is not the one to clean out your engine, much less allow you to run a lower octane gas. Lucas is OK for keeping a clean system clean but not very good at actually cleaning out a lot of old build up.
B&G's 44K is about the best, Chevron's Techtron comes in second and Seafoam third in effectiveness.
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thing is it says on the bottle that if I use this regularly I don't need to use higher octane gas. what's with that????? Says to use this or follow with regular Lucas fuel treatment.
This goes back to the spark knock and carburated days, they really need to omit that from the bottle.
Back in the day, when all cars had carb's, there were no knock sensors to adjust the ignition timing to prevent spark knock while under load, like pulling a trailer, climbing a hill, etc.
It was caused by carbon build up on the pistons, carbon build up increases the compression ratio.
There were 2 ways to correct this, adjust the ignition timing was the first step, if that did not fix it then you had to use a higher octane fuel, because a higher octane fuel burns slower and will not spark knock.
Spark knock is the fuel igniting to soon and the piston is still coming up on the compression stroke and the knock is the two fighting it out.
Higher octane fuel burns slower so it would prevent the knock.
Excessive spark knock will destroy a engine, a little is ok.
With fuel injection they have knock sensors, these sensors detect spark knock and adjust the ignition timing to prevent spark knock, but when they do that you loose horse power and MPG because your engine is not running at its most efficient timing.
That is one of the reasons using premium fuel in a engine that requires it is so important.
Lucas Oil Deep Clean Fuel System Cleaner
