2021 Order VS 2020 Stock
Drifting
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Ok, I want to put this out and see what you all think........ I ordered my Defender mid October, it’s suppose to be in in the next 2 weeks. My dealer has a 2020 Defender on the lot, which has been there since Late November, it’s similar to what I ordered, but more options, ie moonroof, 22” wheels, center console refrigerator, coupe other little things, It’s about 8K more than what I ordered. I was thinking of telling them, I may consider taking the stock one off your hands if they can discount it lower than what I ordered. My only reservation is that it’s a 2020, though it’s a late model, wondering what the factory corrected for that 2021 year? I am assuming things issues were adjusted for 2021. Just a thought to get some ideas......I have the mindset now to just wait, but it’s always fun to try to dangle the carrot.
Winching
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From: San Gabriel, CA USA
... and "Robustec" fabric. They are not full leather seats anymore, not since they stopped making the 2020 HSE. I am sure it was a calculated decision (to highlight the "rough and tumble" image of the Defender and give Range Rover and Disco5 owners some bragging rights), but on an $80K+ vehicle one should be able to spec full leather seats, at least as an option.
Last edited by umbertob; Jan 4, 2021 at 11:48 AM.
Three Wheeling
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8k drop is steep. You can probably get 4-5k. I'm waiting for 2021s and my companies corporate discount to update. Defender wasn't part of discount in its first year. Hoping 2021 is. Our discount allows for 10% off discovery and discovery sports and 5% off all RR model lines. Seeing as the defender comes in around disco price area, I'm hoping we get the 10%.
Winching
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... and "Robustec" fabric. They are not full leather seats anymore, not since they stopped making the 2020 HSE. I am sure it was a calculated decision (to highlight the "rough and tumble" image of the Defender and give Range Rover and Disco5 owners some bragging rights), but on an $80K+ vehicle one should be able to spec full leather seats, at least as an option.
Any idea how big of a difference in the grained leather/robustec in the X Dynamic SE vs the Windsor/Robustec in the X Dynamic HSE? I have been going back and forth between those two model options and the seating seems to be the primary plug for the cost increase?
Winching
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I can only speak from experience with my previous rides (a RRS HSE with black seats and a LR4 HSE Lux with Arabica seats, similar to the khaki seats in my new Defender), both of which also came with full Windsor leather seats, and looked almost as good as new - with virtually zero visible wear - after sitting on them for 208k and 220k miles, respectively. Really great quality leather, soft and supple yet nearly impervious to wear, and I wasn't the type who would use conditioners on it every few thousand miles... I wiped them from dust and dirt at every wash, that's about it.
The grained leather was a whole different feel by comparison, but it's a matter of preference I guess. Some may prefer the rougher, less "slippery" surface, actually. I also can't speak for the durability of the grained leather or the Robustec fabric, but I do read quite a few complaints from First Edition Defender owners that the fabric portion surrounding the leather appears to be prone to discoloration and/or traps dirt quickly.
The grained leather was a whole different feel by comparison, but it's a matter of preference I guess. Some may prefer the rougher, less "slippery" surface, actually. I also can't speak for the durability of the grained leather or the Robustec fabric, but I do read quite a few complaints from First Edition Defender owners that the fabric portion surrounding the leather appears to be prone to discoloration and/or traps dirt quickly.
