Defender $100K markup!
#11
The difference is not as big as you might think - About 7,000 NAS spec D90s were sold in the US 1994-97. New Defender numbers are about 9000 for 2020, and 19000 for 2021.
So 4X as many, which is certainly a smaller ratio than I thought. The fact that there are 3 L663 D110s (and a 90s NAS D90) in my town of <10,000 people is surely an aberration
So 4X as many, which is certainly a smaller ratio than I thought. The fact that there are 3 L663 D110s (and a 90s NAS D90) in my town of <10,000 people is surely an aberration
#13
Yeah @DoctorofRocks , I think they definitely cluster. I live in a town of about 2,000 people in the FAR outskirts of Austin and the neighbor across the street has the same 2022 Habuki Silver 110 X-Dyn HSE. Crazy! I drive hours without seeing one, besides my neighbor....
Also, it's my wild arsed guess what the future will be. In any prognosticating, 50% of the people will be right, 50% will be wrong, and 50% of the people won't care. The point is we can see what happens to the '90's versions because production is over. I think it is not wreckless to imagine one path is that JLR quits producing Defenders. With all the issues, supply problems, discontinued lines, announcements by JLR, yada yada yada - I don't think the chapters are completed yet in the story. Yeah, they may produce the crap out of them. Personally, I think it's in line with the odds that they quit or sell the brand. If the only thing they are really producing to standard are V8's and X's the market is going to start rebelling. Again, my wild arsed guess.
Also, it's my wild arsed guess what the future will be. In any prognosticating, 50% of the people will be right, 50% will be wrong, and 50% of the people won't care. The point is we can see what happens to the '90's versions because production is over. I think it is not wreckless to imagine one path is that JLR quits producing Defenders. With all the issues, supply problems, discontinued lines, announcements by JLR, yada yada yada - I don't think the chapters are completed yet in the story. Yeah, they may produce the crap out of them. Personally, I think it's in line with the odds that they quit or sell the brand. If the only thing they are really producing to standard are V8's and X's the market is going to start rebelling. Again, my wild arsed guess.
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#14
Would be really curious... I just looked at this post because I sold my 2022 Defender Dynamic-SE that was about a $79K optioned car. Ended up reselling it for $87K after 5K miles and 7 months of ownership. Weirdly at the time they didn't charge a markup I think because i was a repeat customer over the past ten or so years.
I think when the chip shortage situation gets better near 2023 these might drop in value. Either way, I picked up a Cayenne Coupe E-Hybrid with the government rebate and am hoping the P400e comes out sooner than later.
Does anyone know if you can order the 2023 yet? Wanted to try the 110 next after this Cayenne...
I think when the chip shortage situation gets better near 2023 these might drop in value. Either way, I picked up a Cayenne Coupe E-Hybrid with the government rebate and am hoping the P400e comes out sooner than later.
Does anyone know if you can order the 2023 yet? Wanted to try the 110 next after this Cayenne...
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#16
They're "Classic" vehicles and prices for a lot of "Classics" have gone crazy.
Here in the U.K. old Defender prices are not so high, but you can pay the equivalent of $50,000 for an old Ford Escort. A car that was crap when new with no redeeming qualities.
And the first Austin Mini's sell for crazy money. Sure they are a great little classic vehicle but $40,000+ for the "Cooper" version is mad.
But it's just the world we live in. Most of the cars end up in "investment barns" and never driven.
When l bought my Ferrari it had sat in the previous owners garage for seven years and barely moved.
I did 2,000 miles in 12 months....more than it had done in the previous ten years. l sold it for around $22,000 back in 2010 and now the value is nearer $70,000
Looking online at the history it's done barely 2,000 miles since l sold it.
Here in the U.K. old Defender prices are not so high, but you can pay the equivalent of $50,000 for an old Ford Escort. A car that was crap when new with no redeeming qualities.
And the first Austin Mini's sell for crazy money. Sure they are a great little classic vehicle but $40,000+ for the "Cooper" version is mad.
But it's just the world we live in. Most of the cars end up in "investment barns" and never driven.
When l bought my Ferrari it had sat in the previous owners garage for seven years and barely moved.
I did 2,000 miles in 12 months....more than it had done in the previous ten years. l sold it for around $22,000 back in 2010 and now the value is nearer $70,000
Looking online at the history it's done barely 2,000 miles since l sold it.
#17
I don't see the markup. It looks like the net price is ~$114K. Did they add $100K somewhere?
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