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I would hope my '22 doesn't have those. His case isn't isolated either. I'm just not a big fan of the cheap plastics on the Bronco/Wrangler, especially for the price.
I think it's safe to say that with the level of programming becoming commonplace on vehicles combined with the ease of push updates when OEM's use that strategy owners are found to have to get used to a certain amount of these things.
But yes that was an awful lot of drama for hopefully nothing and hopefully that stuff will be quickly rooted out and eliminated.
We did the same thing. Had a reservation in for a 4 door Bronco Badlands. However, once it got closer to actual order date we did not like the way it was turning out so canceled the reservation. Started to look at the Defender and test drove a 90. We own a Jeep Gladiator and a 4Runner and I can tell you the Defender inside and out won us over. Ordered a 110 X a few weeks ago and now the long wait beings. Looks like we have an estimated January delivery date, but sure it will get pushed out. Still the Defender is worth the wait!!!
I'm also coming to the Defender after making a Bronco reservation. Between the delays and the hard top issues, I decided to test drive a Defender and REALLY liked it. I can't say I saw much chance of me taking off the doors or top of the Bronco, so those were wasted options for me, and I like the added tech features (and creature comforts) the Defender provides. Still hoping it works out as a solid mild off-road vehicle for camping and exploring (off-road, yes, but not planning on rock crawling)! This is going to be my first non-Ford vehicle, so kind of a big deal for me.
I'm also coming to the Defender after making a Bronco reservation. Between the delays and the hard top issues, I decided to test drive a Defender and REALLY liked it. I can't say I saw much chance of me taking off the doors or top of the Bronco, so those were wasted options for me, and I like the added tech features (and creature comforts) the Defender provides. Still hoping it works out as a solid mild off-road vehicle for camping and exploring (off-road, yes, but not planning on rock crawling)! This is going to be my first non-Ford vehicle, so kind of a big deal for me.
from all the videos/reviews i’ve seen, the defender is much more than mildly capable off road so I think you’ll be happy there
I'm also coming to the Defender after making a Bronco reservation. Between the delays and the hard top issues, I decided to test drive a Defender and REALLY liked it. I can't say I saw much chance of me taking off the doors or top of the Bronco, so those were wasted options for me, and I like the added tech features (and creature comforts) the Defender provides. Still hoping it works out as a solid mild off-road vehicle for camping and exploring (off-road, yes, but not planning on rock crawling)! This is going to be my first non-Ford vehicle, so kind of a big deal for me.
It may bring you comfort to know that the LR4, from which the New Defender evolved, was produced while Ford owned JLR. Many parts and philosophies were adopted from English Ford and Ford Global, including the 5.0 L V8 -- which was taken from an existing Lincoln-Mercury vehicle. So, too, with the transmission.
You will see quite a few FOMO marked parts in the New Defender.
...Many parts and philosophies were adopted from English Ford and Ford Global, including the 5.0 L V8 -- which was taken from an existing Lincoln-Mercury vehicle...
I think it is incorrect to say that the V8 was an existing Ford engine used in Lincolns. It is in fact the other way round. Jaguar started developing the "AJ26" range of engines 10 years before Ford acquired them. The AJ[26] nomenclature is the sum of 6 + 8 + 12, which represents the number of cylinders of each variant they intended to produce. When Ford eventually acquired Jaguar, they put the V6 and V8s into production at their Bridgend site in Wales and shutdown any production that would have taken place at the old Daimler engine site. The original 6 cylinder cars were supposed to be inline rather than V configuration I believe, but I'm not sure if it was Ford or Jaguar or both that designed to ditch the inline 6. Obviously Ford wanted to use the Jag engine in some of their own cars i.e. Lincolns. I don't think the V12 was ever produced unless it formed the basis of the engine that Aston Martin used (they were part of Ford empire as well of course). I do not know the history of the Aston V12 at all, so it could be a totally independent design. Aston Martin however, did use the AJ8 until they switched to using AMG engines more recently.
It is unfortunate that the Wikipedia write-up on the history of the engine kind of glosses over the original development and so one could quite easily assume that it came from Ford. Jaguar engineers really do deserve more credit in the development of such a fantastic engine.
I struggle with the decision to not get the white steelies. I really like the look, but with the hakuba silver and black top I wonder if it would look as good as the black wheels? The silver one pictured below is my build. I think the silver one has the air suspension as it looks lower?Thoughts?
I struggle with the decision to not get the white steelies. I really like the look, but with the hakuba silver and black top I wonder if it would look as good as the black wheels? The silver one pictured below is my build. I think the silver one has the air suspension as it looks lower?Thoughts?
Yeah air suspension Defenders can either be higher or lower than coil Defenders because it’s adjustable. I would definitely go with coils though. As far as looks, mine looks almost identical to that silver one, except mine is grey. Just go with what ya like best, both are really cool.
