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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 09:02 PM
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Default Land Rover Making Great Strides in Reliability

This is impressive. Last year's number was 284 problems per 100 vehicles. Theirry's laser-focus on mentioning reliability at least once, before he got canned, really paid off.

Enjoy having 0.11 less problems with each truck. Service appointment scheduling should also improve from 90 days to 90 days but now we have a 1:15 instead of 2:30.
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 10:46 PM
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Volvo has almost same amount as Subaru? no way...
 
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 11:14 PM
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I am good with being first in place for cool and last in place for reliability. So far lol.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 02:01 AM
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No faults on my 90 Commercial yet, apart from a software update that was needed.

Seems very well put together. No rattles at all.

Surprised VW is right down at the bottom of the chart, we've had a few new VW and had no reasons to visit the dealer with any of them.
And Honda. I thought their reliability was legendary
Likewise Volvo. Things must have changed

 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 07:21 AM
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I'm @ 12.5k miles and 14 months of in service, no issues...(knocks wood!)
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 07:51 AM
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Since when does Honda fall below the industry average? Granted I have not kept up with any of this in a very long time, but something doesn't seem correct about this list?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 10:12 AM
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That list cannot be accurate at ALL. No WAY Mitsubishi is ahead of Honda, Infiniti and Subaru
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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JD Power is silly and we should all know better than to fall for their BS.

They consider a report from a Range Rover owner (who didn't refer to the manual) that the stereo is difficult to program is identical to the Dodge owner who reports that their transmission fell out two miles from the dealership.

These forums provide a daily reminder that some people don't read manuals or listen to the delivery handover, ignore the break in recommendations, and then report "issues" with their vehicle that are non-existent. A great example is the thread of people complaining that their doors don't unlock when they walk towards their Defender. They are not deigned to do that for good security reasons and the manual is clear on that. Most other European manufacturers are doing the same thing.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Here's how it looks over time with the Tata transition.




2005
Lexus 139
Avg 237
LR 395 2nd worst
Kia 397

2006
Lexus 136
Avg 227
LR 438 worst

2007
Buick 145
Avg 218
LR 398 worst

2008 - Tata
Lexus 120
Avg 206
LR 344 worst

2009
Buick 122
Avg 170
LR 238 3rd worst
​​​Suzuki 263

2010
Porsche 110
Avg 155
LR 255 worst

2011
Lincoln 101
Avg 151
LR 212 3rd worst
Mini 221

2012
Lexus 86
​​​​​Avg 132
Chrysler 192
*No LR this year

2013
Lexus 71
Avg 125
LR 220 worst

2014
Lexus 68
Avg 133
LR 179 3rd worst
​​​​​​Mini 185

2015
Lexus 89
Avg 147
LR 258 2nd worst
​​​​​​Fiat 273

2016
Lexus 95
Avg 152
LR 198 4th worst
Dodge 208

2017
Lexus 110
Avg 156
LR 178 8th worst
Fiat 298

2018
Lexus 99
Avg 142
LR 204 2nd worst
Chrysler 211

2019
Lexus 106
Avg 136
LR 221 2nd worst
Fiat 249

2020
Genesis 89
Avg 134
LR 220 worst

​​​​​​2021
Lexus 81
Avg 121
LR 244 worst

2022
Kia 145
Avg 192
LR 284 worst

2023
Lexus 133
Avg 186
LR 273 worst
 

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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DoctorofRocks
JD Power is silly and we should all know better than to fall for their BS.

They consider a report from a Range Rover owner (who didn't refer to the manual) that the stereo is difficult to program is identical to the Dodge owner who reports that their transmission fell out two miles from the dealership.

These forums provide a daily reminder that some people don't read manuals or listen to the delivery handover, ignore the break in recommendations, and then report "issues" with their vehicle that are non-existent. A great example is the thread of people complaining that their doors don't unlock when they walk towards their Defender. They are not deigned to do that for good security reasons and the manual is clear on that. Most other European manufacturers are doing the same thing.
​​​​​​There is some truth here. But it begs the question, why is LR consistently suffering from that more than all other brands?

Are LR buyers just less adept when it comes to their vehicles? More apt to complain? Less likely to do the survey if things are going well? Is the tech/interface too abstract or advanced? I just kinda doubt those are the issues. It's not harder to use than other brands.

Some answers can be found here. This is based on 2020 MY vehicles.
 

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