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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 06:29 AM
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[QUOTE=MattF;841836]It's surprising that the truck would need new brakes (assuming you mean rotors) this soon. Not sure it's even possible to overheat modern rotors such that they would become untrue. /QUOTE]

It's certainly possible to warp modern rotors. Our Honda Passport front rotors are slightly warped after my daughter did the Tire Rack teen driving school which included multiple "emergency" stops from 50 mph. The front rotors on our Toyota Highlander rental with 14K miles were destroyed and the entire vehicle shook when braking. We were visiting Asheville, NC and the trips up and down Grandfather Mountain were likely the cause of the warping on the Highlander.

FWIW, the rear brakes on our LR4's always wore out before the fronts and it did not have torque vectoring by braking. I think it was simply because the front rotors and pads were so much bigger than the rears.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 06:40 AM
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We're at 20k and the rears are starting to show enough wear that we'll probably want them in the next year.

Did I hear something about needing to use a scan tool to release the parking brake or somehow allow the caliper pistons to be compressed?

I guess I should start looking into that.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 07:07 AM
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[QUOTE=PaulLR;843579]
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It's surprising that the truck would need new brakes (assuming you mean rotors) this soon. Not sure it's even possible to overheat modern rotors such that they would become untrue. /QUOTE]

It's certainly possible to warp modern rotors. Our Honda Passport front rotors are slightly warped after my daughter did the Tire Rack teen driving school which included multiple "emergency" stops from 50 mph. The front rotors on our Toyota Highlander rental with 14K miles were destroyed and the entire vehicle shook when braking. We were visiting Asheville, NC and the trips up and down Grandfather Mountain were likely the cause of the warping on the Highlander.

FWIW, the rear brakes on our LR4's always wore out before the fronts and it did not have torque vectoring by braking. I think it was simply because the front rotors and pads were so much bigger than the rears.
While I agree it's "possible" I hold it is relatively unlikely that a rotor would "warp". Most will need replacement from being worn down / exceeding the minimum thickness. Back in the day warped rotors were a thing because the material quality and design were fairly new. Most perceived warpage is actually pad / rotor glazing from overheating. The case above may be / probably is an exception.

Warp rotor diagnosis always seems like the "you need to have your blinker fluid replaced"... kind of diagnosis.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VillaDazzler
You can option on a 90 but not available on a 110 anymore. Used to be standard on D250 base models up until MY21 but the D250 is no longer offered in a 110. Aftermarket swap is the only way in a 110 now as I understand.
I was just on the Land Rover order configurator in the United States and I did not have any trouble specifying a a P300 110 with 18" inch wheels. On the 130 P300, I could only specify 19" or 20".
 

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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TrioLRowner
I was just on the Land Rover order configurator in the United States and I did not have any trouble specifying a a P300 110 with 18" inch wheels. On the 130 P300, I could only specify 19" or 20".
Clarifying that 18" wheels are not available anymore in the 110 for the diesel engine, but I realise that in the US you don't even have a diesel option. P300 is the only way you can get 18" wheels out of the factory now.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornbeef
I’m approaching my first service and will need new brakes as they’ve been vibrating for a while - at some point I must have overheated them. Before I buy OEM ones, I was wondering if there any cross vented alternatives available that might prevent it in the future.
What is your wheel size? I would be interested to see if the rotor replacement sub 30k miles is specific to the smaller rims overheating or people are changing them out early on the 20"'s as well.
I have found the following rotor alternatives:
18" wheels, 349mm rotor - DBA3708S Street T2 slotted,
20" wheels, 380mm rotor - DBA3090S Street T2 slotted, DBA43090S 4000 series T3 slotted and plenty of aftermarket high carbon options without slots or drilling
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VillaDazzler
You can option on a 90 but not available on a 110 anymore. Used to be standard on D250 base models up until MY21 but the D250 is no longer offered in a 110. Aftermarket swap is the only way in a 110 now as I understand.
I've just built a 110 D250 on the UK site with 18" wheels.

It's an SE


LAND ROVER DEFENDER £61,965 DEFENDER 110DEFENDER SED250 AWD AUTOMATIC MHEV BASE

18"s also possible in HSE and HardTops. Per the build site.

 

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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GavinC
I've just built a D250 on the UK site with 18" wheels.

It's an SE


LAND ROVER DEFENDER £61,965 DEFENDER 110DEFENDER SED250 AWD AUTOMATIC MHEV BASE

18"s also possible in HSE and HardTops. Per the build site.

Nice. I guess it varies a lot between markets and probably driven more by demand than anything else. In Australia at least and possibly other markets...the D250 is no longer available (which would be my choice) and when it was available you couldn't spec an SE or higher with 18"s. We can only get a 110 P300 with 18"s in new build. I know someone looking to get a new diesel here and ended up going for a different vehicle because of the wheels.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VillaDazzler
Nice. I guess it varies a lot between markets and probably driven more by demand than anything else. In Australia at least and possibly other markets...the D250 is no longer available (which would be my choice) and when it was available you couldn't spec an SE or higher with 18"s. We can only get a 110 P300 with 18"s in new build. I know someone looking to get a new diesel here and ended up going for a different vehicle because of the wheels.
Yes. That sucks. D250 only an option in the 90 in Australia. 18" available.

Go to a 110 and it makes you get the D300 with the dumb city-alloys.

I'd not get a petrol in Australia. Diesel all the way.

I miss my Holden Jackaroo. Petrol unfortunately but it came with roo-bar, roof leak and ant-nest in the engine bay as standard.

A small crossing somewhere in the Daintree.


What a weapon. Rollin' on 17"s I think.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 07:48 AM
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Looks similar to a Mitsubishi Montero.
 
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