I had a 4Runner TRD Pro that I absolutely hated and sold after less than 6 months, but I didn't go on the 4Runner forum and make silly claims about how the truck is objectively bad. The truck wasn't bad, it just wasn't for me. And that is why this thread is annoying.

"Delicate"? Actually, no. It's torsional rigidity is 29,000Nm/degree - More than 3x that of a ladder frame chassis and one of the most structurally rigid platforms on sale today (excluding supercars based carbon fiber monocoque tubs).
"Not an off roader"? What the hell kind of off roading are you doing?

 

A troll if I ever saw one.

 

Expectations are a bitch....lower them...you will probably live a happier life.

 

It's the internet. There are no doubt other 'brands' with agents out here, just hoping to sway anyone who might be on the fence.

 

Yeah this is a lame take down, with no specifics and terrible formatting/grammar. Thanks for your pseudo opinion but without an actual quibble and real world issues it’s pretty hard to take this seriously.

 

I’m not sure why there’s so much hate for the OP. If he didn’t like the Defender so be it. I’m ok with seeing an less than positive post. I would like a like clarification on what specific off road things it couldn’t do. I’m still waiting for mine to get offloaded from the ship but I’d like to have a realistic expectation of capability and not just the positive stuff.

 

The original post offers little substance and uses catchy phrases like wolf in sheep's clothing to trick you into thinking something adverse. It implies as if the defender is not off road capable, but does not explain why that might be other than the vehicle is too nice to get dirty.

They can dislike the vehicle...that's their prerogative. In terms of valid complaints, the post is surely lacking.

 

Hey Srt, not sure if this is a click & bait post but regardless, I think it should be more accurately titled "New Defender - Very Disappointed in Myself". It does not take a test drive to figure out the new Defender is NOT a direct replacement for the old body-on-frame Defender. As others have said, your comments are so vague and misleading I have not idea why you thought it worth posting.

If I were in your position I would have gone straight to Jeep and bought a $35K Wrangler--then I could take the doors off and go do some rock crawling. The Wrangler is definitely closer to the old Defender than the new one. Better yet, why not buy an old Defender? You should get exactly what you want then!

Still, you got a lot of clicks!...

 

Troll? 😂😂😂,well sorry if anyone disagrees with my opinion ,but,that’s all it is same as yours.

So I can take it that I am the only one who is unhappy with their new Defender? If so that’s cool and maybe there are a few problems with mine,and hopefully the dealer will rectify these next week.

Im not saying this vehicle isn’t off-road capable ,I’m sure it is,I guess it’s that I think the bodywork / trim is too nice/ delicate for anything but road driving.

 

Poor formatting / grammar.Me?Your funny fella😂😂😂😂