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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:04 PM
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its for the good of our country, thats why Im not upset if they do go through
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:30 PM
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If the threat of tariffs results in countries taking their criminals back, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in countries stopping illegals and drugs from entering America, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in countries leveling the playing field with the amount of reciprocal tariffs being applied to goods, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in companies making more products in the US, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in companies investing more in the US, like Tim Cook committing to invest $500 Billion in the US, and hire 20,000 people, I'm ok with it.

These tariffs are a negotiating tool and you have to look at the overall picture. I'm sure there will be some pros and cons along the way, but in the end things will be a net positive for the United States. It's amazing how some people are so short sighted.
 
Old Mar 1, 2025 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim 90
President Trump told his team to figure out the tariff regime by April 2. The effective date is unknown but he doesn’t seem to be wasting much time. Once the tariff goes in place (either UK or EU) JRL must pay it to get out of whatever US port it’s in. We don’t know the number, but if people cancel it will cost the dealers plenty, once it gets to them, or JLR must ship them elsewhere at a cost. JLR does have a pretty strong world-wide market. Remember it’s not just JLR!

This is an unforeseen mess. My couch investigations on this issue makes me realize how complex this is and appreciate my retirement even more. Cancelling the order is probably the easiest part of the chain
Oh it was and is an easily foreseen mess. People have been writing on it for quite some time. A lot of cars are importa that will be hit and the ones made in the states will raise prices because they get parts and steel from outside the country and, as we saw during the pandemic, prices will rise just because they can. US companies will raise prices by 20%. It will give them a 5% advantage and 20% free profits.
 
Old Mar 1, 2025 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lasallen
its for the good of our country, thats why Im not upset if they do go through
Jesus, people really do fall for this stuff. Yes, it's for the good of the country for everyone to pay more for everything and have much higher inflation. I sure hope you didn't complain about inflation during the pandemic. Hopefully you thought that was for the good of the country too.
 
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This thead is unreal.
 
Old Mar 1, 2025 | 04:01 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2025 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Finlander
If the threat of tariffs results in countries taking their criminals back, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in countries stopping illegals and drugs from entering America, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in countries leveling the playing field with the amount of reciprocal tariffs being applied to goods, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in companies making more products in the US, I'm ok with it.
If the threat of tariffs results in companies investing more in the US, like Tim Cook committing to invest $500 Billion in the US, and hire 20,000 people, I'm ok with it.

These tariffs are a negotiating tool and you have to look at the overall picture. I'm sure there will be some pros and cons along the way, but in the end things will be a net positive for the United States. It's amazing how some people are so short sighted.
A lot of ifs there. And YES, it certainly is amazing how many people are short-sighted.
 
Old Mar 1, 2025 | 05:15 PM
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A lot of ifs there. And YES, it certainly is amazing how many people are short-sighted.
A couple of those ifs have already happened, which resulted in our benefit. But tell me, which one of those scenarios do you disagree with?
 
Old Mar 2, 2025 | 01:16 AM
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People: First, don't panic. I have not heard of any concrete plans to apply "25%" tariffs on European goods. China has had 10% added, which will be felt, but that's still a long way from 25%. We have heard talk of 25% applied to Canada and Mexico, but the consequences of such large, across-the-board hikes would be so severe that I personally doubt that anything close to that would be risked.

On the other hand, with "price agreements" or without, people with incoming cars should not be surprised if prices rise should higher tariffs actually be applied. Even 10% is enough to wipe out JLR's or a dealer's profit, and they can't stay in business by earning nothing.

When I ordered my car, I never even discussed price, because I knew that it would be close to meaningless. The rug could be pulled at any point, and the only thing that would matter is what happens after the car is here and I'm about to write a check ... or not.
 
Old Mar 2, 2025 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Finlander
A couple of those ifs have already happened, which resulted in our benefit. But tell me, which one of those scenarios do you disagree with?
I will respond to your question, then back out of this, as this forum is supposed to be about DEFENDERS not politics, but…
IF, the threat of tariffs results in a collapse or serious downturn of a global economy, that would benefit no one. Except the new group of billionaires that are growing each day. Billionaires love recessions. When people lose jobs, foreclosures are up, businesses shut down, that creates a ‘yard sale’ for billionaires who, sitting on piles of cash, swoop in and buy up everything for pennies on the dollar, enriching themselves obscenely. Happened during the last recession, look it up. Oh, and when economies collapse, homelessness increases, and inevitably crime. Because when people are hungry and desperate they will resort to crime to feed themselves and their families. That would NOT be a positive aspect. Most of us here are not billionaires, don’t know about your fiscal situation, but according to the experts, merely people who have Masters and PhD’s in global economics and have spent decades studying the subject, this will result in grim times. But hey, what do they know.
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