In case anyone needs this info, in adding shift paddles to my L663 (V8 wheel), I found that it’s not possible to source the mounting screws for the actual paddles from JLR in the US, at least not for the past 6 mos. They have been on backorder forever and apparently JLR just doesn’t supply them. LR140025 is the part #.

I found the exact spec of the screw and where to buy them from to secure shift paddles to L663 V8 wheels. These are exactly what LR screw is.
TORX Button head T15 M4x10 (10mm length) black stainless steel


Technically 8 of these screws are used.
2 for each paddle (from rear to secure)
2 for each paddle’s bracket with rubber grommets on the front

Note: the powerful UK video install does not feature the bracket. You do need them or the paddles are imprecise and don’t “click” as well. They wiggle around. Here’s those brackets circled. The brackets, which you need 2 of, and usually do NOT come with steering wheel. Here’s the bracket. LR154070. Mounts from front, one for each paddle. It has little rubber receptacles that the paddles fit into.





Also the screws that Powerful UK is supplying are self tapping and incorrect. These are machine screws, I would not use what they supply because if you remove/install them more than once, you’re up a creek. These are incorrect:



Shift paddles, which you can use from any L460, L461 RRS or L663. I bought L461 used paddles from ebay.

 

Thanks for sharing! I upgraded my steering wheel but didn't realized I completely missed inner bracket (LR154070)!
When I upgraded, I ordered the screws from dealership and it took about 6 weeks to get those screws (only bought 4) from UK.
Now whenever I shift, I will get so annoyed that my shifting is not scrip click like it suppose to be (once I know, I know.....)

 

Yes, I was surprised that they missed that completely in the powerful video. It’s plainly obvious that the shift paddle has 2 hard mounting points and then these 2 additional rubber mounting pegs. I tried my paddles without them, exactly as you said: A bit wiggly, imprecise. They still work, but the tactile feeling is terrible without the brackets.

Also, nearly never paddle-capable wheel and paddle upgrade kit is sold without these 2 brackets. Hilarious. I think a lot of people upgrading to paddle shifters are missing these.

Btw, if anyone is wondering why I upgraded. Technicall driving in snow. It is far better to have manual control over what gear the transmission is in than in Auto mode, and that’s far easier with the paddles without removing your hands from the wheel. I usually am in 3 or 4 in snow. These paddles let me go up or down a gear easily. Unfortunately the transmission shifter is the opposite direction of my sports car shifter (Porsche 911) -- so I have many times shifted it the wrong way and caused myself to get bogged down or whatever else. Hence my reason for wanting the paddles.

 

On the side note, I have a questions.
I noticed when I shift with paddles in normal gear mode (not in dynamic or manual shift mode), it does not go back to regular automatic modes like other cars.

Generally, I downshift with paddles when I need to pass in highway and all other cars, usually go back to normal automatic mode in 30 seconds or so but in Defender, I had to manually change gear lever to manual mode (left) and back to normal (right) after every paddle shifting.

Is that normal or did I code something incorrectly?

 

@nashvegas

You should email Simon and co at @PowerfulUK

I have no doubt they’d love to improve their product for this niche market.

even a comment on the YT video will get their attention. They’re incredibly helpful with everything.

I love me some honing about in the snow,….. er I mean, technical snow driving.

 

Your post is the first I’ve seen that reference the opposite direction of the manual shift mode. That is one of the minor discrepancies that I have also noted since taking ownership. Other vehicles I’ve owned or driven are the other way around and muscle memory always has me going the wrong way. I have to remind myself of that every time I use that mode. Small issue, but annoying nonetheless. Why did JLR go that route, in direct opposition to nearly every other make out there? Maybe since they drive on the ‘wrong’ side of the road, they did that backwards, too? LOL.

 

That's the English way , everything just the other way.
By example

Pepper on the table has 3 holes
Salt on the table has 1 hole

So my fries where very Pepper spiced the first time....😡

 

technically the JLR way is the correct way. The 981/991 generation Porsches were always the wrong way. Technically in race sequential transmissions, you pull towards you to upshift. And obviously, second gear on a manual is towards you.

Ironically, 991 GT3 PDK had the manual mode the correct way, and on the 982, they switched it to the correct way.

 

I blame you for sharing information and now it really bugs me that my shifter does not shift crisp.
So thinking of buying brakes and extra bolt and I have 2 questions:
1. Belmetric.com screws for LR140025 replacement:
Thank you for sharing the spec. is this the exact same one that you bought?
https://belmetric.com/m4-torx-button...u=SBF4X10BLKSS

(this is only one shows up when I use your sku# from the picture but this one shows T20 instead of T15 that you stated so I wanted to double check)

2. Paddle brakets - LR154070
How much was it and how long did it take to get it?

If you don't mind please let me know. Thanks!

 

@nashvegas
You're absolutely right about the paddles. I just made an iPhone video showing how much movement/travel paddles have without the clips. And with clip installed, paddling is much crisp and there's no movement. Thank you again for sharing it. Also JLR screws are impossible to buy it from dealership and Belmetric screws were perfect size. Thank you.