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Old May 24, 2022 | 10:34 AM
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2020 Defender X here. Just over 4,500 miles and a slew of problems so far.
  • Front passenger side door jamb is fried. The door takes an insane amount of force to close. Dealer has looked at it multiple times and claims its the weather stripping meanwhile no other door is anywhere close to as bad.
  • The auto-start-stop is super jerky. It has even stalled on me at a stop light. The truck put itself in park and shut off after the auto-start failed to engage.
  • Random CarPlay disconnects where multiple phones fail to pair. The infotainment spams me with "Failed to connect" alerts. It will eventually start working again after the truck has been shut completely off and turned back on.
  • The wireless key fob entry for the rear tailgate works about 25% of the time.
  • Sometimes the cluster will fail to turn on for about 30 seconds after pressing the START button. When this happens, the infotainment screen turns on and it sounds like the engine is struggling to turn over.
  • The front light sprays leak like there's no tomorrow when I spray wiper fluid to clean the windshield. They leak A TON all down the front of the truck and will eventually run down across whatever surface I'm parked at.
  • When talking to Siri connected via CarPlay, the turn signal makes no click noise when it's on. WTF!
I put my deposit down the day these were officially revealed. Waited a few years for it to get delivered. Absolutely love the styling and looks of these, but if we're being completely honest, I have immense buyer's remorse on this. So many problems so soon and my local dealership is like the sixth circle of hell.
 

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Old May 24, 2022 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by peacharies
2020 Defender X here. Just over 4,500 miles and a slew of problems so far.
  • Front passenger side door jamb is fried. The door takes an insane amount of force to close. Dealer has looked at it multiple times and claims its the weather stripping meanwhile no other door is anywhere close to as bad.
  • The auto-start-stop is super jerky. It has even stalled on me at a stop light. The truck put itself in park and shut off after the auto-start failed to engage.
  • Random CarPlay disconnects where multiple phones fail to pair. The infotainment spams me with "Failed to connect" alerts. It will eventually start working again after the truck has been shut completely off and turned back on.
  • The wireless key fob entry for the rear tailgate works about 25% of the time.
  • Sometimes the cluster will fail to turn on for about 30 seconds after pressing the START button. When this happens, the infotainment screen turns on and it sounds like the engine is struggling to turn over.
  • The front light sprays leak like there's no tomorrow when I spray wiper fluid to clean the windshield. They leak A TON all down the front of the truck and will eventually run down across whatever surface I'm parked at.
  • When talking to Siri connected via CarPlay, the turn signal makes no click noise when it's on. WTF!
I put my deposit down the day these were officially revealed. Waited a few years for it to get delivered. Absolutely love the styling and looks of these, but if we're being completely honest, I have immense buyer's remorse on this. So many problems so soon and my local dealership is like the sixth circle of hell.
Are you also experiencing the rock damage on the lower panels and rear doors that some of us are experiencing? I'm still waiting to hear from Land Rover on this.
I have one headlight washer that leaks a bit also (but I'm told that's easily fixed at the dealer), but it seems like they resolved a lot of the technology issues with the 2022 model year.
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MastrBlastr
Are you also experiencing the rock damage on the lower panels and rear doors that some of us are experiencing? I'm still waiting to hear from Land Rover on this.
I have one headlight washer that leaks a bit also (but I'm told that's easily fixed at the dealer), but it seems like they resolved a lot of the technology issues with the 2022 model year.
I haven't noticed any, but I will check and will let you know. My entire truck is wrapped with XPEL PPF (even the matte front & rear bumpers) so I haven't really been on the lookout for any chips.

That's good to know about the headlamp washer. I have to take it in to do the N627 recall so I will have them check that out then.
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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I have not noticed any damage and I have wider tires (275/70/18). Defender is a 2020 P400 X in black with painted black arches.. No marks on the arches either
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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Sorry to hear of your problems @peacharies . This is a VERY unique period in my several decades of owning cars. You can absolutely get rid of one of these for more than you bought it for if it doesn't have too many miles or obvious damage. If you recently got it, I would suggest you off-load it ASAP. The warranty is only 2 years and after that, all problems are on you. And no one will be having engine & tranny problems for a while (a few might, but most of the issues are still to come). Get rid of it ASAP. I would actually not take it back to the Dealer as you should get MORE when you turn it in. Crazy world, I know. Or, find out the value and make the Dealer pay it which I think will be tough. Then, I hope, you have the patience to order another one. It would be tough for me, I will admit, to go thru the wait again. They are great vehicles, but some of them were made on the wrong days of the moon (or whatever). And if you don't want a Defender, take the money and get something else. Good luck!
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 07:39 PM
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I have no AC when it is over 90 in my 21 D90 P300, it has been in twice for it going in again in a week or so
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by peacharies
  • When talking to Siri connected via CarPlay, the turn signal makes no click noise when it's on. WTF!
I'm pretty sure this is as-designed. If I'm on a phone call or using Google voice commands while driving, it also stops the turn signal noise - I assume so it isn't heard by people you're talking to or interfere with voice commands.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 08:27 AM
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No problem here thanks!
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by peacharies
  • The wireless key fob entry for the rear tailgate works about 25% of the time.
Yep, same problem, but I would say it works around 5% of the time. When pushing the button on the back of the door handle, I can hear the locking mechanism unlock, but the door won’t open. Repeat a bunch of times and maybe the door will open, or not.
I’ve since given up and just use the unlock button on the key fob.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MERCTwister
I have no AC when it is over 90 in my 21 D90 P300, it has been in twice for it going in again in a week or so
Do they check the charge in the AC system? A batch of 2021's came overfilled from the factory (with the D110 volume I believe) and caused this exact issue for a lot of people. The dealer may need to removed the refrigerant and then put back in the proper spec amount for the D90.
 

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