Want to make a buck? Help me find the source of this rattle.
#11
10-17-2023, 11:08 PM
Are you out of warranty already? If not, and if you're in the US (other places likely as well), the dealer shouldn't be charging you anything for this.
Beyond that, find a shop with chassis ears at least. They're often a pain, but can be useful for stuff like this.
Better yet, find a shop with a Pico scope that has NVH and time domain capabilities. This could be very hard, but multiple manufacturers support it, Mercedes for sure and I think BMW also, so if JLR hasn't jumped on board already they might in the next 5-10 years lol. I could have your noise pinpointed to about a one inch square within about 30 minutes assuming a bunch of panels or parts don't need to be removed to access the source and also assuming the noise happens regularly. There are independent shops running Pico as well, but another difficult thing is finding someone who actually knows how to run it efficiently. It isn't hard at all, it's just new tech that a lot of people haven't done much or any training on. Honestly I think an MB dealer would be your best bet here, if you can get them to bother with your LR, as MB very recently did a big Pico training push. If you want to go that route, your best bet will be to talk to their shop foreman and explain your situation. Mention the Pico, and don't ask them to actually fix it unless they want to, just pinpoint with Pico. Obviously you'll be paying their prices, and they'll probably want you to authorize 3-ish hours up front. All that being said, not all MB dealers, or BMW, or whoever, will have a Pico even if they know what it is, partially because they're not cheap. And even if they do have one, they may not have the sensors for noise diagnosis.
$50 lol
Good luck
Beyond that, find a shop with chassis ears at least. They're often a pain, but can be useful for stuff like this.
Better yet, find a shop with a Pico scope that has NVH and time domain capabilities. This could be very hard, but multiple manufacturers support it, Mercedes for sure and I think BMW also, so if JLR hasn't jumped on board already they might in the next 5-10 years lol. I could have your noise pinpointed to about a one inch square within about 30 minutes assuming a bunch of panels or parts don't need to be removed to access the source and also assuming the noise happens regularly. There are independent shops running Pico as well, but another difficult thing is finding someone who actually knows how to run it efficiently. It isn't hard at all, it's just new tech that a lot of people haven't done much or any training on. Honestly I think an MB dealer would be your best bet here, if you can get them to bother with your LR, as MB very recently did a big Pico training push. If you want to go that route, your best bet will be to talk to their shop foreman and explain your situation. Mention the Pico, and don't ask them to actually fix it unless they want to, just pinpoint with Pico. Obviously you'll be paying their prices, and they'll probably want you to authorize 3-ish hours up front. All that being said, not all MB dealers, or BMW, or whoever, will have a Pico even if they know what it is, partially because they're not cheap. And even if they do have one, they may not have the sensors for noise diagnosis.
$50 lol
Good luck
The main issue here is it doesn’t happen regularly. Only on certain section of roads on my commute can I be reasonably sure it will occur to some extent.
My dealer has been great with everything BUT solving this issue. They legitimately wanted $390 to tear apart the rear seats WITHOUT hearing the noise or driving the vehicle themselves. If they replicated the noise and were certain it was coming from there, I’d even pay it at this point.
#12
10-18-2023, 11:59 AM
#13
10-19-2023, 08:36 AM
Are you referring to the green container it’s kept in or the door itself? I’ve tried the latter.
#14
10-19-2023, 06:52 PM
I had a similar rattle coming from the tailgate.
The sideway "T" shaped plastic door guide was rubbing into the "C" shaped catch in the door frame.
I have found that using cloth/felt tape (so cheap on aliexpress) into both of those helped considerably.
I have bought several width variation of that tape and used it in every spot were plastic rubs/creaks/rattles throughout the car.
Best few $$$ spent.
The sideway "T" shaped plastic door guide was rubbing into the "C" shaped catch in the door frame.
I have found that using cloth/felt tape (so cheap on aliexpress) into both of those helped considerably.
I have bought several width variation of that tape and used it in every spot were plastic rubs/creaks/rattles throughout the car.
Best few $$$ spent.
#15
10-24-2023, 06:34 AM
Do you have a roof rack?
Ive started putting my bikes on it, and ive been sitting and walking on it. This has damaged or bent something in the first element of the rack. Its the black frame piece that has the wind deflector. It clanks on certain resonant frequencies and was driving me mad. It took me ages to locate where the rattle was coming from.
Ive started putting my bikes on it, and ive been sitting and walking on it. This has damaged or bent something in the first element of the rack. Its the black frame piece that has the wind deflector. It clanks on certain resonant frequencies and was driving me mad. It took me ages to locate where the rattle was coming from.
#16
10-25-2023, 03:04 PM
Not sure if I'm listening to the right sound, but the noise I'm zeroing in on sounds to me like some sort of actuator/servo failing. The active strut could be the culprit. I have no idea if this would work, but you could try unplugging the strut and driving to see if the noise is eliminated. You will probably throw a CEL code but it should still be drivable.
#17
10-29-2023, 10:17 AM
Not sure if I'm listening to the right sound, but the noise I'm zeroing in on sounds to me like some sort of actuator/servo failing. The active strut could be the culprit. I have no idea if this would work, but you could try unplugging the strut and driving to see if the noise is eliminated. You will probably throw a CEL code but it should still be drivable.
#18
10-29-2023, 10:18 AM
Do you have a roof rack?
Ive started putting my bikes on it, and ive been sitting and walking on it. This has damaged or bent something in the first element of the rack. Its the black frame piece that has the wind deflector. It clanks on certain resonant frequencies and was driving me mad. It took me ages to locate where the rattle was coming from.
Ive started putting my bikes on it, and ive been sitting and walking on it. This has damaged or bent something in the first element of the rack. Its the black frame piece that has the wind deflector. It clanks on certain resonant frequencies and was driving me mad. It took me ages to locate where the rattle was coming from.
#19
11-03-2023, 09:08 PM
#20
11-04-2023, 12:17 AM
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