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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Trying to get the Rover ready for winter duties and just going through fixing various things and such. Tried to get O2 sensors for it but Bosch lists 2 different numbers depending if it is equipped with "Advanced Evaporative Loss System." How do I know?
Here is with it:


ANd here is with out it:



Also, what fluids for diff, t-case, trans and diff "*****"? Tried looking it up but the trans says Dexron IID which I Cannot find and everything else just says GL5 with no weight? I'd like to replace all fluids. It has 125k on it and it's a manual.


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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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advanced evap started in mid 1997 and on from there, it will say "advanced evap" on one of the underhood emmission decals, see the service sticky for all the fluid info
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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I was on Atlantic British website yesterday, and if you had the choice of an AEV part, there was a link that showed you were to look on a sticker which I think was under the hood. There is a certain number on that sticker that tells you if the vehicle has AEV. I would trying looking for that part at AB, and see if it includes that link. Because to be honest with you, I don't know how to identify AEV either.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Go to British Parts of Utah and locate their D1 02 section, it will show you the vin. range that will determine which 02's to use.
Are you having 02 faults, if not why are you replacing these overly expensive 02's?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Or you could just follow the lead up and see what color the connector is. If it is black, you do NOT have it, if the plug is gray you do. You should hope you do because it means about 1/3 less for O2 sensors.

Part numbers, if you are interested:

WID AELs:

NTK Oxygen Sensors 25044 - NTK Oxygen Sensors large image
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Brand
NTK Oxygen SensorsManufacturer's Part Number
25044Part Type
Oxygen SensorsProduct Line
NTK Oxygen SensorsSummit Racing Part Number
NGK-25044UPC
087295250440

Number of Wires
4Voltage Range
0-1 VMounting Style
Thread-inOxygen Sensor Bung Included
NoWiring Harness Included
YesQuantity
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and WIDOUT AELS



4 Wire Non-Flanged OE Identical Titania Oxygen Sensor, Direct Plug In, No Cutting or Splicing Required For Installation. Wire Length: 520mm/20.47in.
Select Application:
--Please Select Application-- w/AELS w/o AELS
Super Class Part Name Stock Number Part Number Loc 1 Loc 2 Notes Price Qty Add To Cart OE identical O2 sensor 25017 25017 After Catalyst Left
$129.85
OE identical O2 sensor 25017 25017 After Catalyst Right
$129.85
OE identical O2 sensor 25017 25017 Before Catalyst Left
$129.85
OE identical O2 sensor 25017 25017 Before Catalyst Right
$129.85


But you can find them around for about $100, sometimes less. They are actually the SAME SENSOR with a different plug. Really.

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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Garret,

If you noticed, most people put info about the vehicle in their signature. Year, miles,etc.

This helps everyone when it comes to identifying a problem. I have an "early" 97 which is pre-AEL. The fuel pumps for these are a lot cheaper than the AEL version.

Like Mike asked, are youy having O2 problems, any codes? Are do you just like spending money on expensive parts?

Raise you hood and find your emissions sticker or if it is a 97, the VIN is the best thing to go by.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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These determine the EVAP family. Should be on a sticker under the hood.

VLR1124AYPFE - Advanced Evaporative Loss System

VLR1060AYPBC - Standard Evaporative Loss System

Dexron III is reverse compatible with Dexron IId - pretty sure. Not too many MT's out there. I will let one of them chime in to see what they are using..

The weight it call for is an 80W90. Some use 75W90, it is ok, but if you have some miles on her, and have a little clunking, you can go up to 95W140. Anything in that range is ok. I am running 95W140. It is thicker for the winter months, and your fuel mileage may suffer a little, but it does wonders for driveline slap. You use the same gear oil in the t-case and front and rear diffs. Each part takes a little over 2 quarts.

The "diff *****" you refer to I am guessing are the swivel *****. 2 shiny ***** right by the wheel.. These take a special blend put out by Rover that come in a "one shot" package... that is the name of them. Thicker than oil, but lighter than grease. If you put grease in, it won't get where it needs to, and if you put oil in, it will leak where you don't want it.. Get the one shot's for those..

Oh, and keep in mind the power steering takes ATF...
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco
Garret,

If you noticed, most people put info about the vehicle in their signature. Year, miles,etc.

This helps everyone when it comes to identifying a problem. I have an "early" 97 which is pre-AEL. The fuel pumps for these are a lot cheaper than the AEL version.

Like Mike asked, are youy having O2 problems, any codes? Are do you just like spending money on expensive parts?

Raise you hood and find your emissions sticker or if it is a 97, the VIN is the best thing to go by.
Yea I just like spending money on expensive parts
The truck needs a good tune up and I'm going to do one. O2 sensor is in the tune up section in my book.

It's a 96.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Dexron III is all you need, dont worry about the "D"

7 qts of gear lube, I use 85w-140.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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And FWIW, those sensors are 85$ each, not very expensive when you find out an 04 Camry has one that's about 150+$
 
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