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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Hi Guys,
I've got a HHO cell to fit to a 300TDI.
Problem is I'm not sure where to port in the HHO to the intake system.
Instructions advise into the system before the air filter, but would it not be an issue pushing HHO through the turbocharger?
I wasn't sure if porting the HHO feed in after the turbocharger would affect the pressure - in that the pressure from the HHO cell would be less than that in the intake system, resulting in back pressure to the HHO cell.
Have any of you guys had any similar experience?

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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HHO is science fiction.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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why's that Jafir?
I mean, fuel over here is equivalent to $10 a gallon, and that's the cheapest it's been in a while....
If it gives me an extra few mpg, then what the hell.

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Why not plumb it in between the air filter and the turbocharger ? As long as it's clean gas. I've seen these things advertised, and I'm skeptical, but it would be interesting to hear any real life results.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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I have no experience with these but I am thinking like you that it shouldn't be after the turbo, the pressurized side won't draw in the gas. Is put it after the filter before the turbo .
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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I'm just wondering whether porting the gas into the air filter would have any detrimental effects on the intercooler.....
I can't see it doing, but it's an expensive assumption to make.....


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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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I know on propane injection setups you inject just before it enters the motor, but thats pressurised. If the HHO doesnt have mutch pressure your going to almost have to go pre turbo. I know its becoming more popular with semi trucks over here but I beleive they are using an electric or air operated pump to over come the turbo psi.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Correct, you will have to put it pre turbo unless you have a pump to force it in after the turbo. I have seen some setups that have it pressurized and stored in a tank, then injected into the system. I have not played with those setups yet. And it is not science fiction. It does work IF done correctly. We set up a bank of 2 cells on a TBI 350 and went from 17mpg to 24mpg with a noticeable increase in throttle response. My buddy did it to his Yugo and now averages 53mpg and says the thing has more power than it did when new. But we built the units ourselves out of better components than the 'kits' are made out of.

You can knock it if you want, but it works.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 02:36 AM
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Chris - a yugo! you get that crap over there?
Ok, so It's going pre turbo, the next question is pre or post intercooler....

By My calculations.... varying my concentration of KOH solution and ampage I can generate around 3-4 LPM, with an engine size of 2500cc and mostly highway miles, it should return at least 5-10% increase in MPG. Time, and tests will tell....

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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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It takes more energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen than is generated "burning" hydrogen. Producing it in the car and then magically having more power than you used to get the hydrogen violates the first law of thermodynamics. The alternator isn't "free" electricity.
 
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