Good thing I have already spoke with Mike and solved the problem I was having, sounds like some of you need to be on CNN to much political BS in this thread for it to even be useful. The setup I am running has no brighter or glare of light in the housing than a set of Sylvania Silverstar bulbs I tried them earlier tonight. They do however offer a much sharper pattern on the ground where it counts the most

 

I am not worried about blinding other drivers as I usually run my Hella's through town anyway.... people don't bright me, but it is probably because they don't have a free hand to find the lights...

Did you get them working Cooter?

 

ok, Go drive on the interstate at 40 mph (the legal min) when everyone else is doing 80 and see if you and other people on the road feel safer.

So you're going to set them up so sometimes they are HID's and sometimes not?
In any case I'm not saying no HID's ever, I'm saying no HID's in halogen housings.
Because they are not designed to work as a unit they are never safer than good halogen bulbs.

If you have a clear view both directions and nothing is coming, yeah, it would be. But personally I just pay attention when I'm driving so I don't have to slam on my brakes to stop at a red.

Feel free to take yours off when it's safer, I couldn't care less.

Have I ever suggest someone do that in a manner that risks other peoples' lives? What's your point?

Please explain to me how pointing out illegal modifications that jeopardize the safety of others is "political BS".

You obviously don't know how automotive bulbs, reflectors and lens are designed as a unit to work together.
You also don't understand how the human eye works. You want less light on the ground right in front of your car, not more, for better safety at night.

Well you're definitely cool.

In general I agree. That's the problem, HID's in halogen housings jeopardizes the safety of others. And there are people, as evidenced in this thread, who
a. can't be bothered to educate themselves or
b. just don't give a crap about other drivers on the road.
Those are the only two options for people who retrofit HID's to halogen housings. They can deny it all they want, but those are the facts.

 

Tom, I was just trying to make someone, anyone laugh and let go of the discussion.

People get on here and want to cut out their cats. Can't just tell them it is illegal, you have to go through ahd explain how it will harm your engine, bla, bla. I am on the fence with HID's, but if it says on the box offroad only, that is what it is for... Some people want to do it, and are going to regardless of what you say. Offer a warning and drop it is what I have found to be best..

I don't really run my Hella's in town...

I will say that I have my CDL and I don't care what other people are doing, I don't speed. They can go around me..

 

Tom i must give you props that was the most complicated multi-quote response on any forum i have ever seen. my head is spinning worse than when someone is driving at me with illegal HID's in their dodge neon.

 

Zing! you got me. lol

I honestly don't care so much about the legality, other than to point it out so people can factor that in, since doing something you know to be illegal to your car that causes and accident (which blinding other drivers can do) can leave you open to having your insurance canceled and both civil and criminal liability. Some people just don't think about that.

There is a lot of misinformation about HID's and some people think if they say DOT on them, or state regs don't address them, then they are legal, which they aren't.

My biggest beef is just that they are dangerous to other drivers.

 

Well, just for you, I'm replying separately.

Sorry.

 

the thing i can't figure out is our trucks came with village lights. because those polite folks across the pond don't want to shine their lights into peoples homes when driving thru the village. here it is, "how f'n bright can i make my headlights!?!?!"

 

LOL Yeah. Every time I'm driving in the UK, my wife, who's from there, is always saying, "Tom, no brights in town!"

 

my ex is from the UK... the only thing im going to import from now on is going to be mechanical