new#$$%^& issue
But you then said you don't even know where these grounds are, So I guess you never have been under there.
Cutting and doing new is a LOT SIMPLER than messing with a severely corroded ground and much better results much quicker.
You're right, and I apologize. Never again will I try to offer a suggestion contrary to those already posted, in order to give the original poster a well-rounded idea of any and all possible solutions he may encounter that may or may not fix his/her problem.
Well the clicking could be the fuel relay as well. Try reseting the fuel cut off under the hood, its on the firewall on the right side of the engine just to the right of the washer fluid tank. It has a round rubber top, push down on it and you should hear a click.
Now keep in mind that your second posting acknowledged that you did not even know where the grounds were, so you were merely theorizing, not offering insight gained from dealing with that exact problem and how it was resolved. You had an idea, great. Theorizing should primarily be reserved for those lecturing in classroon settings, especially if one has not gained actual intimate knowledge by first hand experience.
But feel free to contribute,even if it is an unsupported personal opinion. But maybe you should preface those expressions by saying, I don't really know where that item is, but I think....................
Have a good day, man
But feel free to contribute,even if it is an unsupported personal opinion. But maybe you should preface those expressions by saying, I don't really know where that item is, but I think....................
I wasn't going to reply, and I don't mean to hijack the thread, but this just irritates me Danny.
This is the second time that you've taken aim at my posts, and implied a lack of experience, simply because I did not have every detail.
There are many reasons that any electrical connection can not be making contact. Severe corrosion is only one. I've been working on aircraft for close to ten years now, and I've seen my share of bad electrical connections.
As far as the 'personal opinion' comment goes, I put that post on there because I had nearly the exact same problem with a Wrangler I used to have, and I wasted a lot of time chasing down bad starter connections, etc, for the same reasons you suggested, which are perfectly valid. But the thing that finally fixed it was exactly what I suggested to the poster. It was free, simple and easy. And I kicked myself for not trying it sooner.
So, the moral of my rant is, please don't assume that just because someone hasn't had a wrench on that exact nut and bolt before, that they don't have personal experience to back up their opinions. And please don't take the opportunity to try to berate them for offering those opinions.
I wasn't going to reply, and I don't mean to hijack the thread, but this just irritates me Danny.
This is the second time that you've taken aim at my posts, and implied a lack of experience, simply because I did not have every detail.
There are many reasons that any electrical connection can not be making contact. Severe corrosion is only one. I've been working on aircraft for close to ten years now, and I've seen my share of bad electrical connections.
As far as the 'personal opinion' comment goes, I put that post on there because I had nearly the exact same problem with a Wrangler I used to have, and I wasted a lot of time chasing down bad starter connections, etc, for the same reasons you suggested, which are perfectly valid. But the thing that finally fixed it was exactly what I suggested to the poster. It was free, simple and easy. And I kicked myself for not trying it sooner.
So, the moral of my rant is, please don't assume that just because someone hasn't had a wrench on that exact nut and bolt before, that they don't have personal experience to back up their opinions. And please don't take the opportunity to try to berate them for offering those opinions.
UpChuck: Chill man. I was an Aviation Electricain as well. And an Electrical Manufacturing Enginner for both Martin Marietta Aerospace and McDonnell Douglas on the Tomahawk Cruise Missile Program. Then a Reliability/ Failure Analysis Engineer on the Cruise Missile Program so I too have seen a multitude of electrical problems in both operating and manufacturing environments.
And I will give you credit that SOME connections can be adequately cleaned as you stated. The practice is called burnishing when it is applied to items like relay contact surfaces.
But like you said, you never even looked at the Discovery starter ground connection so I think you were a little brash. Take a look under yours one day. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that does not have much corrosion. Mine looked like something you see on the Discovery Channel from a underwater shipwreck that has been submerged for eons. The metals had deformed and could not be unbolted. So the only practical approach is to cut the old terminal off, strip the wire, crimp new terminal on and abrade a spot on the frame for a new connection like my photos showed.
I was only pointing out that without even looking at it, you were awfully presumptive with your original statement that it could be accomplished in the way you advocated.
If that irrated you, then.....................it is what it is.
And I will give you credit that SOME connections can be adequately cleaned as you stated. The practice is called burnishing when it is applied to items like relay contact surfaces.
But like you said, you never even looked at the Discovery starter ground connection so I think you were a little brash. Take a look under yours one day. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that does not have much corrosion. Mine looked like something you see on the Discovery Channel from a underwater shipwreck that has been submerged for eons. The metals had deformed and could not be unbolted. So the only practical approach is to cut the old terminal off, strip the wire, crimp new terminal on and abrade a spot on the frame for a new connection like my photos showed.
I was only pointing out that without even looking at it, you were awfully presumptive with your original statement that it could be accomplished in the way you advocated.
If that irrated you, then.....................it is what it is.
Last edited by Danny Lee 97 Disco; Oct 6, 2010 at 10:56 PM.
I wasn't trying to be presumptive or brash, or discount what you said Danny. And I'm sorry if it came across that way. But I think that the responses from you were a little aggressive and implied ignorance on my part, which is what made me go on the defensive.
If I'm wrong about something, that's fine. That's how I learn. I'll tell you what I know, you tell me what you know, and we'll all get smarter. That's the beauty of the forum.
And maybe someday Leadfoot will find out if the OP ever got his truck started.
If I'm wrong about something, that's fine. That's how I learn. I'll tell you what I know, you tell me what you know, and we'll all get smarter. That's the beauty of the forum.
And maybe someday Leadfoot will find out if the OP ever got his truck started.




hey kids, to your rooms and calm down