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Old 02-29-2012, 02:48 PM
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I am new to the forum but I have read up on this issue several times as I had this issue. I told myself that once I have fixed at least my issue I will let people know. So here it goes

I have a 1996 Discovery I SE. It threw a P1316 code.

First I have changed the plugs and used the cheap plugs with the wires. I also threw in Seafoam treatment and cleaned the TPS

These did not but the plugs had to be changed

So I looked around and I thought to myself with my luck it would be the most expensive part. The MAF sensor. Autozone sells it for $800+... I am not paying that so I went to ebay and got it for $106
LAND/RANGE ROVER MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR METER MAF 95-99 | eBay

I also got an ignition coil set of 4 from ebay for $80
Discovery Land Rover Range Ignition Coil Set of 4 V8 Kit | eBay

these had a dramatic improvement in performance (mainly from the MAF sensor as I installed that first and the improvement was immediate) but the code still flared up. The vehicle drove a lot better at least.

Then I went to the muffler shop. Two of the manifold gaskets were blown and I had them fixed. I cleared the code afterwards and drove around. I waited a week to see if the check engine light will come on and it didnt.

So my theory on fixing this issue.
New MAF and check manifolds. I read somewhere that if the manifold is damaged the ecu will think the gas is running lean and will try to enrich it thus making the car run rich.

I am no means a mechanic so do not take it 100% from me. But I hope this helps people with this insane issue
 
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:57 PM
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Very interesting indeed. Wonder where those MA's are made? I have read that most aftermarket MAF's are not that good for D1's. Hope yours works out.

I tried to click on the link for the coil packs but it never came up.
 
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:57 PM
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Curious to know how that MAF works out. Keep us posted. Where exactly are the gaskets you replaced?
 
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:34 AM
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You threw alot of parts at it for a misfire, good 8 mm silicone wires and plugs would have fixed it.
The MAF was not a player in the 1316 which is an emission misfire, next time check with us first and save both time and money.
 
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:14 PM
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When I bought my land rover about a month ago. 3 and 8 didn't fire at all. I replaced plugs and all the wires with brand new wires. this fixed cylinder 8. 3 was still giving me problems and i pulled 3 at the coil and didn't see a spark. Replace the coil and all is fine so far.... for the most part.

Maybe this will help. My car seemed fine for the most part with 3 not firing but the code P1316 would keep popping until I replaced the coil.
 
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What is the best way to test or check coil to isolate a problem?
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:50 PM
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id say if you are trying to isolate a misfiring coil then unbolt the coil bracket and swap coils around on the bracket to see of the miss follows the coil you moved.
 
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:54 AM
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Mine is popping P1316 erratically and is varying at really cold temp, runs like a beast any other time. Plugs look sooty, I reviewed the previous codes against the recent attachment that Savannah provided on the Gems and ECU and such, it talked about lean conditions, where mine had ended to run rich.

I have the NGK wires which I am sure are good.

I got a 20% off coupon on Champions and they are on sale so I plan to grab a couple of sets and throw in for now and see what happens next.

As soon as I get a few bucks together I also plan to get an Ultraguage and narrow in on each monitor as I want to.

Mine only has 120K on it and sounds great 99% of the time. The damn tach comes and goes at will, but the ultraguage will resolve that issue. Tach acts like a cracked trace on a circuit board or something of that nature. Wish I had another tach to sub in.
 
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:24 PM
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Danny, how's your alternator.....usually that's at fault when the tach starts to act up, I've read others who've had that lead to all kinds of goofy things happening...????
 
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I have a volt meter with a "hertz" scale, so it can read frequency to a certain point. Reading the tach lead could tell you if the problem is at the tach or the wire bundle or alternator. Could be a ground on the tach lead from alternator, or loose connection.
 


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