Removed the K&N Air Filter
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10-02-2010 | 02:51 PM
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Baja
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Removed the K&N Air Filter
Well, I finally got around to removing the K&N Air Filter and replaced with an OE from RN for 12 bucks.
Sounds a little different but runs really smooth. Got to get around to putting in the new Valley Gasket. RN had a sale on the entire kit that included all the intake/head gasket/exhaust gasket hardware on special so I went ahead and sprung for that as well as new oil and air filters.
Called on Wednesday afternoon around 3 and it was sitting on the front porch early Friday morning UPS Ground. I almost stumbled on it going out to check the mail.
Got to pull all the info together about r&r of the valley pan gasket and make sure I got all the tools and stuff handy.
Sounds a little different but runs really smooth. Got to get around to putting in the new Valley Gasket. RN had a sale on the entire kit that included all the intake/head gasket/exhaust gasket hardware on special so I went ahead and sprung for that as well as new oil and air filters.
Called on Wednesday afternoon around 3 and it was sitting on the front porch early Friday morning UPS Ground. I almost stumbled on it going out to check the mail.
Got to pull all the info together about r&r of the valley pan gasket and make sure I got all the tools and stuff handy.
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10-02-2010 | 07:34 PM
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Baja
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Raise HOOD. The hood release is inside under the dash on driver's side.
The inner release in right behind the V in ROVER.
See the black plastic box on by your right hand if you are facing the engine? It has what looks like a little horn on the front of the box.
Disengage the two clips on the front, and one on the back. There should be an air filter in there. Pick it up. Place a new one where the old one was.
Make sure you get the correct side facing down.
This is very important for proper operation of the air intake system.
Place the top back in place. Snap the retention clips back in place. They only work in one orientation, so be careful when you disengage so you can properly reengage.
Close hood. Throw away old filter.
The other two pictures show some of the typical items you should have on hand when working on your Rover.
Have fun with your list.
And I was only joking about the direction of airflow above.
The inner release in right behind the V in ROVER.
See the black plastic box on by your right hand if you are facing the engine? It has what looks like a little horn on the front of the box.
Disengage the two clips on the front, and one on the back. There should be an air filter in there. Pick it up. Place a new one where the old one was.
Make sure you get the correct side facing down.
This is very important for proper operation of the air intake system.
Place the top back in place. Snap the retention clips back in place. They only work in one orientation, so be careful when you disengage so you can properly reengage.
Close hood. Throw away old filter.
The other two pictures show some of the typical items you should have on hand when working on your Rover.
Have fun with your list.
And I was only joking about the direction of airflow above.
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10-02-2010 | 08:19 PM
Rock Crawling
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10-02-2010 | 10:31 PM
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Baja
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The K&N
George,
The issues with the K&N primarily consists of potential damage to the MAF from the filter oil coating the MAF internal element and possibly wiping it out.
I bought the K&N right after getting my Disco since the old filter was nasty, I figured more HP and a washable element, what more could you want.
I never really oiled mine because I read about damage to the MAF from excess oil, so I figured ok, just rinse it let it dry, put it back in. I was told that was like running with no filter.
I mostly drive around town, a little off-roading nothing really dusty. You could really hear the intake pulling the air in when you got on the throttle.
Anyway, I was ordering parts so I went back to the advised standard paper filter element. It does run really well with it. My plugs and wires are recent as well as fuel pump, so mine is running strong and steady as such.
They say stay away from the K&N, so mine is sitting on the shelf in a plastic bag, looking sad. I never really had a problem with it but figured I would go back to the stock one.
I had also used K&N on a few cars in the past.
The issues with the K&N primarily consists of potential damage to the MAF from the filter oil coating the MAF internal element and possibly wiping it out.
I bought the K&N right after getting my Disco since the old filter was nasty, I figured more HP and a washable element, what more could you want.
I never really oiled mine because I read about damage to the MAF from excess oil, so I figured ok, just rinse it let it dry, put it back in. I was told that was like running with no filter.
I mostly drive around town, a little off-roading nothing really dusty. You could really hear the intake pulling the air in when you got on the throttle.
Anyway, I was ordering parts so I went back to the advised standard paper filter element. It does run really well with it. My plugs and wires are recent as well as fuel pump, so mine is running strong and steady as such.
They say stay away from the K&N, so mine is sitting on the shelf in a plastic bag, looking sad. I never really had a problem with it but figured I would go back to the stock one.
I had also used K&N on a few cars in the past.
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10-03-2010 | 02:50 PM
Winching
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George,
The issues with the K&N primarily consists of potential damage to the MAF from the filter oil coating the MAF internal element and possibly wiping it out.
I bought the K&N right after getting my Disco since the old filter was nasty, I figured more HP and a washable element, what more could you want.
I never really oiled mine because I read about damage to the MAF from excess oil, so I figured ok, just rinse it let it dry, put it back in. I was told that was like running with no filter.
I mostly drive around town, a little off-roading nothing really dusty. You could really hear the intake pulling the air in when you got on the throttle.
Anyway, I was ordering parts so I went back to the advised standard paper filter element. It does run really well with it. My plugs and wires are recent as well as fuel pump, so mine is running strong and steady as such.
They say stay away from the K&N, so mine is sitting on the shelf in a plastic bag, looking sad. I never really had a problem with it but figured I would go back to the stock one.
I had also used K&N on a few cars in the past.
The issues with the K&N primarily consists of potential damage to the MAF from the filter oil coating the MAF internal element and possibly wiping it out.
I bought the K&N right after getting my Disco since the old filter was nasty, I figured more HP and a washable element, what more could you want.
I never really oiled mine because I read about damage to the MAF from excess oil, so I figured ok, just rinse it let it dry, put it back in. I was told that was like running with no filter.
I mostly drive around town, a little off-roading nothing really dusty. You could really hear the intake pulling the air in when you got on the throttle.
Anyway, I was ordering parts so I went back to the advised standard paper filter element. It does run really well with it. My plugs and wires are recent as well as fuel pump, so mine is running strong and steady as such.
They say stay away from the K&N, so mine is sitting on the shelf in a plastic bag, looking sad. I never really had a problem with it but figured I would go back to the stock one.
I had also used K&N on a few cars in the past.
Hmmm, I'm still sceptic about there being any issue with the oil and the MAF... How much to buy your filter and ship it over to 30738? I'll stick it in mine, and I have and extra maf just in case...
Actually, thinking about it more, and I'll stick with paper. I was reading some of the specs etc on the K&N and they seem to not cover anything "off road" related...hmmmm
Last edited by ngarover; 10-03-2010 at 03:17 PM.
#8
10-03-2010 | 03:01 PM
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Baja
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NGAROVER: PM sent.
Geek: I was wondering why anyone would need pics of air filter replacement, but I figured what the hell, he did ask for pics so I di a nice little write-up to go with it. I almost posted a pic of my hand pulling the hood release, but I thought: No, even a Geek could handle pulling the hood release even if he did need help replacing the air filter... ( I took pics of the hood release cable mechanism from inside to the under the hood release one day because people had asked questions regarding stuck/broken cables).
My bad.
Geek: I was wondering why anyone would need pics of air filter replacement, but I figured what the hell, he did ask for pics so I di a nice little write-up to go with it. I almost posted a pic of my hand pulling the hood release, but I thought: No, even a Geek could handle pulling the hood release even if he did need help replacing the air filter... ( I took pics of the hood release cable mechanism from inside to the under the hood release one day because people had asked questions regarding stuck/broken cables).
My bad.
#9
10-03-2010 | 03:56 PM
Mudding
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Gauze filters will not remove as much dust as paper. They move more air but if you are going into a dusty environment all the time I would stick with paper. I have a k&n on all my vehicles and never have had an issue with a ruined mass air. Look on their website and they have run tests with a contaminated mass air with their oil. Tests may be biased, but it appears little permanent damage is done with oil on the maf element.
#10
10-03-2010 | 08:34 PM
Baja
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From: Georgia, USA
You don't need the whole head gasket set just to do the valley pan gasket. All you need is about a $30 gasket set.
K&N's claim to fame is better breathing. The only way to do that is to pass more air. The only way to pass more air is larger pores in the filter. Larger pores lets through more dirt.
K&N's claim to fame is better breathing. The only way to do that is to pass more air. The only way to pass more air is larger pores in the filter. Larger pores lets through more dirt.