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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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I want to use the Volume Up/Down buttons for my Winch In/Out controls inside the cab.
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I'm having issues determining the pin-out for the stock switches though.
I thought one would be power in, one power out to the radio, one power in for the illumination, and a ground. That's not what I'm finding.
Here's what I have for pin-out:
1-BRWN/YLW - 4.18v with key on
2-RED- 8.84v with headlights on
4-BLK- no voltage
5-BLK- no voltage

So I need a little help here. Here's the wiring diagram from the RAVE.
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I want to have 12V coming in and 12V going out to the winch solenoid.
Any help on what pins I need to use or what the heck is with that diagram????

I hate electrical, FYI!!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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Pin 1 NY
Pin 1 U

Whatever color those are. They are what you want and that's an awesome idea but they complete a ground circuit, or short the radio to ground, to use you need to cut pin 1 to run out to the winch and pin 4 to attach to 12 volt

P2 is power in for lights RN

Pins 4-5 are grounds guessing B. Is black

Where is 3?

Not sure it will work but worth a try since it is just turning on the solonoid not carrying current
 

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Thanks Tom. Studying the diagram more I think you nailed it. Thanks dude!!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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What winch and do you have a control box for inside the cab or remote outside the truck?

This is what you want/have currently.

NU = Brown/Yellow at pin 1 +12V (up) winch line in tied to winch in-cab control.
U = Blue at pin 1 +12V (down) winch line out tied to winch in-cab control.
RN = Red/Brown at pin 2 would leave as they are your switch backlighting.
B = Black at pin 5 are grounds for switch backlighting.
B = Black at pin 4 on both up/down are switch grounds that you'd hook up to the winch's in cab remote.
 

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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I have the Viking GS-9 winch. The Albright solenoid is remotely mounted behind the grill. The winch remote plug is remotely mounted on the grill just above my Hella light.
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There's no in-cab control for the winch. That's what the Volume Up/Down buttons are going to be for. The 12v out from the switches will go back to the solenoid.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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I have a wireless remote but like this to since I don't see the point to the volume buttons when I can more easily reach the radio
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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1 & 4 on each switch will give you a set of normally open contacts. However, those switches are signal level only and are meant to ground a very low current signal pin going into the radio microprocessor to signal to the radio micro that the volume was adjusted by a click, and then the adjustment is made via software. They are probably not meant to carry any current whatsoever, I would recommend figuring out how much current your solenoids will be drawing by measuring the resistance and I=V/R and if it's more than a few milliamps, install interposing relays. Some of those solenoids can suck down a fair amount of current when they engage.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 04:53 AM
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Yeah, you really want to use relays to activate the winch solenoid, not the switches.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by antichrist
Yeah, you really want to use relays to activate the winch solenoid, not the switches.
Ok, I can toss a couple in there.
Question though. Why does the winch controller not need relays? Bigger wiring, higher rated switch??
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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The controller is only to turn on the solenoid, that carries all the current, the solenoid is just a big *** heavy duty relay

Volume switches are not made for current but I say worth a shot worst happens you burn the switch up or like scouts says wire relay inline
 
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