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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Gotcha. That's good to know, that the "00' grease is the same stuff.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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This is a very nice write up and I am considering adding it to the tech section Fish.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Turning the wheel hard to the outside is the key to easily filling it with the
ONE-SHOT. Trevor at RovahFarms has them for like 7 bucks or so each.

With the wheels straight it misses the inside of the ball. I found out from experience.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Definitely. I turned the wheels to full lock, then let do of the wheel and shut the engine off. If I had shut the engine off then locked the wheel at full lock it probably would have opened it up a bit more. I could see the gap through the fill hole, but apparently I was missing it.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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I am rebuilding my swivel ***** at the moment. They were filled with grease previously.

I understand grease doesn't leak as easily as gear oil and could prevent a failure due to dry parts (all leaked out). However, I'm a little skeptical that grease is better for a maintained vehicle because it's difficult to get out. If oil will leak out, water will leak in just as easily so you will have a water/grease emulsion quickly if you do any wading. Also, the grease is not renewable unless you do quite a bit of disassembly.

Overall, I think grease is better but,

if you pump grease into it every six months, how does the old grease get out?

It seems to me that once you put the grease in, you're stuck with it until you pull the stub axles.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nevada ben
I am rebuilding my swivel ***** at the moment. They were filled with grease previously.

I understand grease doesn't leak as easily as gear oil and could prevent a failure due to dry parts (all leaked out). However, I'm a little skeptical that grease is better for a maintained vehicle because it's difficult to get out. If oil will leak out, water will leak in just as easily so you will have a water/grease emulsion quickly if you do any wading. Also, the grease is not renewable unless you do quite a bit of disassembly.

Overall, I think grease is better but,

if you pump grease into it every six months, how does the old grease get out?

It seems to me that once you put the grease in, you're stuck with it until you pull the stub axles.
Grease breaks down to its base stock over time, which is petroleum based and actually turns to a liquid.
Since the swivels on a '96 or newer does not have drains on the swivels the only way to get any old lube out is to take the swivels apart.
Mind you the way I do it is not the "recommended" way of doing it but my CV joints are the original and it seems to be working just fine so far.
How long would they last other wise?
I have no idea.
Every front wheel drive care I have ever owned with sealed CV joints the CV's only lasted into the 150k range at best.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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My early 97 has the drains on it.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco
My early 97 has the drains on it.
Early '97 means late model '96.
I think I mis spoke and the '96's have drains, the '97's on do not.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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I have a 97 and it does not have the drain.

Btw, I can't believe what a dumb-*** I was about filling my swivel *****. The last time I did it took FOREVER because I had the wheels pointing forward.

Today, I did my passenger side radius arm bushings and realized I had a bag of the one-shot lying around, so I cranked the wheels and it was a friggin' breeze!

I celebrated with a cold brew (I'm on vacation this week).
 
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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And THAT is why we hate you Chris!

I am planning on doing this very soon. I have not touched my swivels and have been 4 wheeling like crazy for the past year.
 
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