The 03-04 ARB is slightly differently designed, has fog light holes, and does NOT have recovery points. They removed the recovery points that were to the left and right of the fairlead.

The Terrafirma set up is nice, doesn't have a guard for the lights and grille but does have a washer bottle guard and an AWESOME approach angle. I may still trade with a person locally that has the terrafirma setup.

 

I never realized that 03-04 setup didn't have recovery points. I am thinking of going with the terrafirma. Although it doesn't have the headlight guards I like the approach angle and that is has to save on some weight.

 

I had a t-shirt with that on it. About 8 years ago I gave it to waitress at Hooters who'd just bought a Freelander.
I figured it would be appropriate for her before long.

 

hahahaha not even worth pushing a Freelander, unless it's off a cliff.

 

Cant say Ive ever driven a Rubicon before but as a former vale and a lube technician at Jiffylube Ive driven MANY vehicles old and new. The other day I drove a new Sahara into the shop. Had a manual transmission and all the pedals were to far beneath the dash that I could not reach them, even with the seat pulled all the way up near the steering wheel I had a hard time stepping on the pedals. I also observed that with a small front windshield and a HUGE flat hood, I had very limited visibility. The controls and interior design is also difficult to get used to, buttons and controls are not where they should be. Yes I am very short for my age (5 feet 1 inches) but the point here is that the ride is very uncomfortable and the visibility is poor. In my D2 I can keep the seat back further from the steering wheel and still reach the pedals with ease AND I have excellent visibility out the front windshield. I'm not expert on off-road vehicles but if I were going to take a vehicle off road then it better be comfortable, have a large windshield and excellent visibility because I need to be able to study all the terrain around the truck, especially the front end. I'll keep my 04 D2 any day!

 

Well, turns out he is getting a Sahara. Getting it tomorrow or Tuesday. It will have a limited slip rear diff, but that's it for off road goodies. I think we will be an even match. Anxious to see what it can do. It will have Dueler A/T tires, so I could be better for now. Anyway, looking forward to taking them out this weekend.