Pre-2013 vs 2013 LR2 Head to Head
#1
Pre-2013 vs 2013 LR2 Head to Head
Hey there,
Not sure that I'm keen on the smaller turbo powerplant in the new 2013 - test drove one yesterday and although the lag isn't too awful, the non-linearity of acceleration when you giv'er really isn't the best. What I'm curious about is how they come off the line vs a 2012 (or earlier)? Anyone know of anyone dragging these two off the line and the results? (Video would be awesome!) Is the 2013 just all around faster or does it lag for a bit before the turbo fully kicks in and it pulls ahead?
\|/ Jeff \|/
Not sure that I'm keen on the smaller turbo powerplant in the new 2013 - test drove one yesterday and although the lag isn't too awful, the non-linearity of acceleration when you giv'er really isn't the best. What I'm curious about is how they come off the line vs a 2012 (or earlier)? Anyone know of anyone dragging these two off the line and the results? (Video would be awesome!) Is the 2013 just all around faster or does it lag for a bit before the turbo fully kicks in and it pulls ahead?
\|/ Jeff \|/
#4
There is only one engine option - at least here in Canada - a 4 cylinder 2.0L turbo.
As far as fuel economy goes, I admit to being heavy on the pedals so I routinely run 16L/100km - lots of cold starts in really cold weather and it drops to 25L/100km but on the other hand put it on the highway staying under 110 km/hr (ie keep the rpm below 2000) and it gets 8.5L/100km.
As far as fuel economy goes, I admit to being heavy on the pedals so I routinely run 16L/100km - lots of cold starts in really cold weather and it drops to 25L/100km but on the other hand put it on the highway staying under 110 km/hr (ie keep the rpm below 2000) and it gets 8.5L/100km.
#5
There is only one engine option - at least here in Canada - a 4 cylinder 2.0L turbo.
As far as fuel economy goes, I admit to being heavy on the pedals so I routinely run 16L/100km - lots of cold starts in really cold weather and it drops to 25L/100km but on the other hand put it on the highway staying under 110 km/hr (ie keep the rpm below 2000) and it gets 8.5L/100km.
As far as fuel economy goes, I admit to being heavy on the pedals so I routinely run 16L/100km - lots of cold starts in really cold weather and it drops to 25L/100km but on the other hand put it on the highway staying under 110 km/hr (ie keep the rpm below 2000) and it gets 8.5L/100km.
#6
Lets start with the fuel economy
I wrote this on FREEL2
And for the return trip
Here is the link https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic35826.html
Note: the Evoque initially came with a 6 speed like the LR2 but later Evoque's has a 8 speed or 9 speed.
I really like the 3.2 but the 2.0T can be a good choice as well.
Thanks
Paul
I wrote this on FREEL2
The results are in and they are amazing
Note: this is with the cruise control set to about 100 KPH
My LR2 went almost 300 miles
26.9 MPG. American
32.3 MPG. Back home in the UK with a proper sized gallon
8.74 L/100 KM. Using units that only make sense for Soda over here
And this was done with a well used engine
Note: this is with the cruise control set to about 100 KPH
My LR2 went almost 300 miles
26.9 MPG. American
32.3 MPG. Back home in the UK with a proper sized gallon
8.74 L/100 KM. Using units that only make sense for Soda over here
And this was done with a well used engine
And for the return trip
At about 120 KPH the fuel economy dropped significantly.
23 MPG USA
27.6 MPG UK
10.23 L/100 KM
Summary
1. Traveling 20% faster required about 15% more fuel to go the same distance
2. A significant part of the increased fuel consumption is due to the efficiency of the engine, Variable Valve timing, Variable Valve lift and Variable intake runner length.
Conclusion
If you want low fuel consumption in the 3.2 then keep the RPMs 2000 or less
Take care
Paul
PS Any 3.2 that can duplicate the 26.9 MPG USA result is running very well, if your 3.2 can't do this on a flat road then its likely time for a tune up.
23 MPG USA
27.6 MPG UK
10.23 L/100 KM
Summary
1. Traveling 20% faster required about 15% more fuel to go the same distance
2. A significant part of the increased fuel consumption is due to the efficiency of the engine, Variable Valve timing, Variable Valve lift and Variable intake runner length.
Conclusion
If you want low fuel consumption in the 3.2 then keep the RPMs 2000 or less
Take care
Paul
PS Any 3.2 that can duplicate the 26.9 MPG USA result is running very well, if your 3.2 can't do this on a flat road then its likely time for a tune up.
Here is the link https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic35826.html
Note: the Evoque initially came with a 6 speed like the LR2 but later Evoque's has a 8 speed or 9 speed.
I really like the 3.2 but the 2.0T can be a good choice as well.
Thanks
Paul
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#7
My Evoque was the first year so still had the 6 speed transmission, the drivetrain should be identical to my 2013 LR2 but the fuel mileage is not, same driving conditions, same location. I faintly remember the winter mileage being poorer so I still suspect that winter-blend gasoline is the issue. Once the summer blends are on the market I'll keep checking the fuel economy on the LR2 as I do every tank Otherwise I can't understand the difference which is quite significant.
#8
As for the question about performance
The Turbo has more Torque and more Horsepower (slightly more)
So in a 1/4 mile it is faster
https://autofiles.com/0-60-times/land-rover/lr2/
But I really like how easy it is to drive the 3.2 slow and easy and then if you need it you ask for the extra power.
I enjoy the Torque curve of the 3.2
The Turbo has more Torque and more Horsepower (slightly more)
So in a 1/4 mile it is faster
https://autofiles.com/0-60-times/land-rover/lr2/
But I really like how easy it is to drive the 3.2 slow and easy and then if you need it you ask for the extra power.
I enjoy the Torque curve of the 3.2
#9
My Evoque was the first year so still had the 6 speed transmission, the drivetrain should be identical to my 2013 LR2 but the fuel mileage is not, same driving conditions, same location. I faintly remember the winter mileage being poorer so I still suspect that winter-blend gasoline is the issue. Once the summer blends are on the market I'll keep checking the fuel economy on the LR2 as I do every tank Otherwise I can't understand the difference which is quite significant.
The Evoque with the 2.0T will consume more if the Turbo is making more boost but it doesn't switch over from low consumption to high consumption like the 3.2.
For the 3.2 you need to stay in the lightly shaded region to minimize fuel consumption
Do a long run at 100 KPH and let us know what you find out.
One last thought
The Thermostat for the 3.2 is a know failure point (without any symptoms except increased fuel consumption)
If you replace it then get an actual LAND ROVER part or VOLVO part
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/fo...gmched#p576329
Good luck
Paul
#10
The Evoque does appear to get better highway MPG
Highway (Using Soda Pop units)
2013 Evoque 2.0T 8.71 L/100KM
2013 LR2 2.0T 9.80 L/100KM
2008 LR2 3.2 10.69 L/100KM
I think the Evoque has a smaller frontal area and a lower drag coefficient than the LR2
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_Rover_Evoque
Highway (Using Soda Pop units)
2013 Evoque 2.0T 8.71 L/100KM
2013 LR2 2.0T 9.80 L/100KM
2008 LR2 3.2 10.69 L/100KM
I think the Evoque has a smaller frontal area and a lower drag coefficient than the LR2
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_Rover_Evoque