Was finally able to get away from the Ducati Re-assembly and Dune Buggy project this morning. Broke down and bought a large adjustable wrench, cooling fan came off (as mentioned, that nut was NOT very tight), A/C compressor bracket now slid right off, but PAS pump is still attached by 8mm bolt on the BACK of the Attached Engine Hoist plate. Once that was out of the way, I had a clear shot at the front of the lower intake for some prying and light tapping..Intake finally popped off with big "POP".



All bolts out of lower intake manifold (12) and it doesnt want to come off. I lightly pryed on one of the coolant inlet pipe bolts,...and it still felt like it wasnt going to move.

Any Suggestions?

also,...all the bolts are out of the A/C compressor bracket including the two that hold the power steering pump,......but the power steering pump does not want to release from the now loose bracket.

The cooling fan is still in,....(Dont have a 36 mm wrench or large enough adjustable and pipe pliers wouldn't loosen it),...so I cant slide the A/C compressor fully forward off the long bolt spacer coming off the block,....is the power steering pump hanging on this as well??

BC

 

No, all of the bolts in the A/C compressor bracket are not out. There is a 10 or 13 MM bolt going into the block underneath the A/C compressor. You need to get the fan off, remove the compressor, remove that bolt, and then the entire bracket will slide off along with the PAS pump.

Edit: I just checked the diagrams (not near a motor right now) and it appears, and I think I remember this....that the A/C and PAS bracket bolt I'm talking about actually goes into the lower intake manifold. In any case, that bracket needs to be off before you remove the lower intake - that's just how it works.

If you don't have the wrench, get/rent one or get a pair of water pump pliers. They're a bit too short, but you can get them on there and get the fan off. You just need to do something to hold tension on the serpentine belt so the water pump doesn't spin. It sucks, but it works in a pinch.

 

Think you may have misread my post. The Compressor bracket is completely free and able to slide back and forth on the bolt spacer tube that runs through it,...but the cooling fan keeps it from coming completely forward and off that spacer tube. The compressor is off to the side. Im not able to get the PAS pump off the bracket however,..both its bolts and the nut removed.

Open to any suggestions on how to get the cooling fan off without special tools or a 36 mm open end wrench. May have to go buy a big crescent wrench tonight.

 

Do yourself a favor and get a 36mm wrench or a big shifter that will go up to 36mm in order to get the fan off, no other way around it. Otherwise you are going to have to use a cutting torch.

 

Ahh, yes. I did misunderstand where you were at with that bracket.

You said you removed the 2 bolts on the PAS pump? There is also a nut at 12:00 (above the center line of the PAS pump shaft) that holds it in. Maybe that's what's hanging you up.

As far as the lower intake manifold, I'd really really suggest you get that fan off and the bracket out of the way. It's not something you want to pry on, and your visibility is quite compromised with all the junk still in the way.

If you are positive its clear of obstructions and bolts, it's entirely possible someone got crazy with gasket sealant and really stuck the thing on. I'd suggest carefully trying to get a razor blade under the lower intake and above the gasket to see if you can work your way down one side to loosen it enough to be able to lift up on it with your hands. Using any sort of cheater or pry bar on the lower intake should be an absolute last resort.

 

for the fan......try taking a large flat screw driver and place on the edge of the nut...take a small sledge and wrap it a couple times..it should break free and always worked for me....using a small dremmel to put a notch in the nuts helps ...

good luck, Chris

 

Note I stated "Both bolts and the nut removed"

 

Well, you are missing something that is bleedingly obvious. But you aren't doing it right, so you can't tell. (by this I mean not removing the fan)

I don't think there is any more help anyone can give you without pictures and removing the fan.

Sorry your free help is not up to the level of professionalism you feel you deserve.

 

I had to remove teh two small bolts on the back of the PAS pump that the engine hoist point is mounted to before my PAS pump would come out. The bolt that has the nut also runs all the way through the pas pump so you need to get it pretty far forward to get the pump out.

 

Joe, thanks, that answers a couple of questions. I wondered about the small fasteners on the hoist plate..........but there is no mention of them in the RAVE procedure (that I found), and I specifically looked to see if it was mentioned.