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Old May 11, 2024 | 02:37 PM
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The Range Rover (L322) in Europe came stock with the BMW M57 Turbo Diesel (TD6)

US based BMW M57 engines can easily have 300hp, 600ftlb tq, 8spd transmissions, and get 30-35mpg in their vehicles. No noise, no vibration, no stink...just crazy power, great reliability, and great gas mileage for large heavy vehicles. Sounds like a perfect fit for our beasts to me. The parts are comparable or cheaper than LS swap parts, and companies in Europe can provide all that's needed computer and wiring wise to make the swap even easier than an LS, from what I understand.

Seems like a good idea, on paper anyway?
Fitment isn't as nice in older rovers. Roadside just put one in a defender and I believe they had some challenges and a defender bay/trans tunnel is far friendlier to swaps than a disco. That said if not going LS that might be the next best option. Prices will keep this from happening but a 3.0 Duramax from a newer 1500 or tahoe would be very very interesting to see in a rover imo.
 
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Old May 11, 2024 | 04:52 PM
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Don't even need new drive shafts...from what this lil video shows...unless I missed or misunderstood something?

Just listen to that thing accelerate and go thru the gears near the end of the video (16:00 mark or so)

 

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Old May 11, 2024 | 06:08 PM
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Gotta say, that's my new favorite video on the internet. The witty comments, white girl music montage, and creativity. I wish I could do this swap
 
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Old May 11, 2024 | 10:33 PM
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Will look into that. I understand 3800 can be built up to some very impressive horsepower. I read an article about a guy who made a 650 horsepower
motor (heavily modified/high octane) by ditching the Supercharger and using a Turbocharger instead. That of course is way too much power than I want but I could get 350 to 400 horses. from a build
As always I'll look into it but, then I'll probably decide against it due to high cost nevertheless its worth some researching. The RWD engines could be had on eBay relatively cheap and ready for rebuild in the event it were to happen

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Old May 12, 2024 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by whowa004
a trans controller is a grand or run an gen 4 LS ECU with the trans controller built in. I'd argue that the trans set up is far far below 7-10k to run a 6l90. Plus the benefit of the gearing is you can achieve very low gearing if leveraging the t-case and diff ratios correctly in low range.
My price includes the 6l80 to lt230 adapter, controller and either new transmission or purchase of used transmission with preventative tear down/upgrades and new upgraded torque converter.

4:88 gears on 33s pairs with the low 1st gear of the 6l80 would be very impressive off road. Even more impressive if you adapt that 6l80 to a torqy diesel
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by whowa004
Fitment isn't as nice in older rovers. Roadside just put one in a defender and I believe they had some challenges and a defender bay/trans tunnel is far friendlier to swaps than a disco. That said if not going LS that might be the next best option. Prices will keep this from happening but a 3.0 Duramax from a newer 1500 or tahoe would be very very interesting to see in a rover imo.
The prices of a low mile 3.0 baby max with 10 speed transmission are very low. I have not seen any stand alone set ups for these. Along with the stand alone getting rid of all the BS emissions crap would also be a necessity.

It is a wide engine compared to the 2.8 Duramax so I fear fitment might be an issue in the small D2 engine bay
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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CORRECTION! It was 600 Horsepower Not 650 as I misquoted. Nevertheless still an impressive number for the 3800
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 01:15 PM
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Horsepower is what you need for race cars running at high RPM's and high speeds around a track....Torque is what you need to move heavy objects from a standstill and up hills. Don't let folks twist ya around thinking HP is good for heavy slower moving vehicles...it's a waste of money and time, as taught repetitively by those who've built trail rigs, rock crawlers and rock bouncers for years. Use the right tool for the job...just sayin
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 02:00 PM
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It doesn't take much to outperform the 230 some odd ft-lbs of torque the stock 4.0 makes. A stock 3800 makes 215 ft lbs before any mods.

While not the engine I'd choose, or would probably run circles around around any 4.0/4.6 disco at even the 300 hp range.

I'd go with a 4.3 before a 3800. V8 mpg with 6 cylinder power, in stock form.
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PickleRick
It doesn't take much to outperform the 230 some odd ft-lbs of torque the stock 4.0 makes. A stock 3800 makes 215 ft lbs before any mods.

While not the engine I'd choose, or would probably run circles around around any 4.0/4.6 disco at even the 300 hp range.

I'd go with a 4.3 before a 3800. V8 mpg with 6 cylinder power, in stock form.
I'm feeling like to many folks don't realize the wiring and integration issues that make swapping these Discos a nightmare. I've done engine swaps on a variety of other vehicles over the years, and the mechanical integration is easy on most makes and models, including the Disco, when compared to wiring and computer integration. But if you want your systems to continue working as designed on your D2, or even something close, you're gonna have a bad time on your own. Even the LS swap world is still trying to figure out how to make a swap work flawlessly, after all these years, there are STILL no easy integration options. In fact, those that try it, quit and get out of the biz, quickly. Why y'all think that is, eh?

It's easy to machine parts and weld brackets, but you wanna redesign what was a funky computer system to begin with?....you're braver than I. Good Luck with that.

The M57 swap can reportedly be done as a perfectly integrated, virtually plug and play swap for the D2....count your blessings....and your torque/mpg gains

For all those who wanna try 3.8l's, Chevy/Ford Diesels, and even LS swaps, let us know how that's working out for ya, honestly
 
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